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I like it. Looks good. Certainly much better than opening up the vent system.
im happy with it. It is nice demci has them premade now.
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Anyone with an R5 mind breaking out their tape measure for me? I'm trying to determine whether a build will fit.

The idea is to have a 280mm rad in the front, 140mm rad on the bottom, and 140mm rad at rear exhaust. All radiators will be in a push-pull setup with 25mm thick fans.
According to their possible fan locations sheet, the case will support 140mm fans in all of those locations. Their water cooling radiator options sheet suggests that a 280mm rad in front, and 140mm on bottom and 140mm in back will also fit. However, the Radiator Compatibility Chart doesn't say anything about a 140mm radiator being supported on the bottom!

So I'm wondering: How much space do I actually have? On the inside bottom of the case, assuming a 140mm rad is placed in the middle, how much space is available for the power supply and its associated cabling? Could the rad maybe be rotated 90 degrees to provide more room? Could the fan (and radiator) be pushed further forward and mounted on the vent holes to provide more room for the power supply? How much space is available for the front fans and radiator?

Also, while we're at it, just how much room is available for the motherboard? The case is listed as supporting ATX (305 × 244 mm), but not E-ATX (305 × 330 mm). However, some motherboards listed as E-ATX are only 305 × 257 mm or 267 mm wide, would those fit?

Thanks for the help!
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Originally Posted by gftgy View Post

Anyone with an R5 mind breaking out their tape measure for me? I'm trying to determine whether a build will fit.

The idea is to have a 280mm rad in the front, 140mm rad on the bottom, and 140mm rad at rear exhaust. All radiators will be in a push-pull setup with 25mm thick fans.
According to their possible fan locations sheet, the case will support 140mm fans in all of those locations. Their water cooling radiator options sheet suggests that a 280mm rad in front, and 140mm on bottom and 140mm in back will also fit. However, the Radiator Compatibility Chart doesn't say anything about a 140mm radiator being supported on the bottom!

So I'm wondering: How much space do I actually have? On the inside bottom of the case, assuming a 140mm rad is placed in the middle, how much space is available for the power supply and its associated cabling? Could the rad maybe be rotated 90 degrees to provide more room? Could the fan (and radiator) be pushed further forward and mounted on the vent holes to provide more room for the power supply? How much space is available for the front fans and radiator?

Also, while we're at it, just how much room is available for the motherboard? The case is listed as supporting ATX (305 × 244 mm), but not E-ATX (305 × 330 mm). However, some motherboards listed as E-ATX are only 305 × 257 mm or 267 mm wide, would those fit?

Thanks for the help!

1. 280mm front = check, no issues. You can go as thick as your gpu allows.

2. 140mm bottom = check but if you have a large psu the 140mm may need to scoot forward some. It can mount anywhere between the fan mounts not just all the way forward or all the way against the psu.

3. rear 140mm = check there are sliders that allow you to move the fan/rad/fan up or down about 3 inches as needed. The only issue I see here is if your mobo has one of those heatsinks thats connected to a bulky i/o cover thing.

4. Eatx = not going to work without modding. The way the mobo is recessed is what causes the issues. There are photos earlier in the thread.
Edited by Wirerat - 7/25/15 at 7:04pm
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Do you really need the 140mm rad in the bottom and rear?, it will look fugly if you ask me and be blocked by some psu cables.

If you are just trying to save on buying rads then fine but it would look a lot better with a 360 and 240

I'm going to redo mine soon and i've got a bunch of rads i've never even used to try out... just bought a sweet cpu block also even thought the one i have is fine and performs great. smile.gif
Edited by khemist - 7/25/15 at 7:14pm
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post #13075 of 16068
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Do you really need the 140mm rad in the bottom and rear?, it will look fugly if you ask me and be blocked by some psu cables.

If you are just trying to save on buying rads then fine but it would look a lot better with a 360 and 240

I'm going to redo mine soon and i've got a bunch of rads i've never even used to try out... just bought a sweet cpu block also even thought the one i have is fine and performs great. smile.gif
A 280 up front scooted to front top and middle slots. Only the 4 screws would hold it with the top half floated but its fine.

I would go 280 front 240 bottum if trying to keep moduvents closed.
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post #13076 of 16068
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1. 280mm front = check, no issues. You can go as thick as your gpu allows.

2. 140mm bottom = check but if you have a large psu the 140mm may need to scoot forward some. It can mount anywhere between the fan mounts not just all the way forward or all the way against the psu.

3. rear 140mm = check there are sliders that allow you to move the fan/rad/fan up or down about 3 inches as needed. The only issue I see here is if your mobo has one of those heatsinks thats connected to a bulky i/o cover thing.

4. Eatx = not going to work without modding. The way the mobo is recessed is what causes the issues. There are photos earlier in the thread.

Can I pretty, pretty please get some measurements?

It sounds like you're saying the bottom vent holes are the appropriate diameter and position to mount the bottom fans and radiator, so I don't have to use the specific mounting holes. Correct? That still leaves me to wonder whether there is enough room for the radiator to be placed perpendicular to the front of the case, or whether it will only fit lengthwise. How much space is inbetween the bottom 140mm fan mounts and the motherboard tray/internal wall? Maybe the radiator could extend into the cable-routing grommet for a few extra mm? How high and how large is the rubber grommet? Specific measurements of the space available would really help here.

Suppose I wanted to use the mounting holes on the bottom of the case. How much space do I have for the power supply and cabling? 165mm total? 190mm? How much space do I have for the front radiator? I figure the bottom radiator will be further forward than the graphics card, limiting the width of the front radiator. With 25mm fans in push-pull, can I fit a 45mm radiator? 60mm? Measurements are very valuable.

What are the dimensions of the recessed motherboard tray, exactly? Obviously I can't fit a full E-ATX. But can I fit a motherboard that measures 305 by 257mm?
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Do you really need the 140mm rad in the bottom and rear?, it will look fugly if you ask me and be blocked by some psu cables.

I am designing for function first, not aesthetics.

Thanks for the help!
post #13077 of 16068
You can make decent measurements from pictures and known dimensions, try fitting the components in there.

EATX, it's been Q&A here many times, some boards fit, some are too large, depends on what mobo and if you want to keep the grommets or not. You could always cut it out with a dremel to fit any mobo.
FD designed the case as a middle tower for ATX. Not a full tower for EATX. I guess it helps with cables and space for them, but personally if it were in the way for EATX I would just cut it off, not put there like FD did. The botom is nice, more space for cables but the right side, nope nope nope, hate it even on R4, just chop it out right where the mobo ends, no need to bend cables at hard angles into grommets and what not.
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Originally Posted by JackCY View Post

You can make decent measurements from pictures and known dimensions, try fitting the components in there.

Honestly, that's what I've been more or less trying to do for two weeks, but since I might be working with a build that will have only a few millimeters of clearance at question areas, the estimations I can make from pictures aren't accurate enough. It's been hard to find good pictures of the internals of the case, particularly the bottom in question. Simply knowing the internal length of the case (and how much the front fans might extend from that) would be a huge help, but I haven't been able to find that anywhere. According to their site, the case is 521mm long, but I don't know how much of that is taken by the front panel and frame, and how much of that is usable internal space.
post #13079 of 16068
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Do you know if the Swiftech 240x or 220x are enough for SLI?

Yes and no and also depends on what you are cooling and room temps.

Was surprised to see these temps on just a 240mm rad.
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I want to cool a 6700k and 2 x 980ti hydro's, this concept might work. I moved the 240x forward enough to get a 140 on the back. I got 6 screws on the 240x without drilling. If the board puts a video card in the first slot, this would be a problem. I should have tried to rotate the 140 and use 90 degree fittings. I'm trying to get the coolest air on the rads, 4 fans in, 3 fans out, good anti dust pressure.
H240X top and 140 on back
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