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@gftgy
Distance between big cable routing hole on the bottom and the side of the case roughly 180mm.
I have a 160mm long PSU (Seasonic P-660) and with it fan facing up there's no way I could fit a 140mm fan on the middle bottom position. The modular connectors are in the way. If it would be fan down then it could be possible.
The distance from back wall of the case to the front is ~457mm, and from the edge of the PSU to the front is roughly 297mm but this of course doesn't take in to consideration the modular cables.
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Just ordered the Define S with window, will be switching from my White R5 with window.

Looking forward to having a fully filtered 360 in the front this time, a monsta or RX i think.
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Originally Posted by khemist View Post

Just ordered the Define S with window, will be switching from my White R5 with window.

Looking forward to having a fully filtered 360 in the front this time, a monsta or RX i think.
According to tracking my define s should come tomorrow, want me to post build pics? Monsta 360mm rad ^( show you what the monsta would look like) and 240mm rad, cpu and gpu.
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Thank's but no need, mine will be here tomorrow also!. smile.gif
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Oh nice smile.gif I'll stick put up a few pics though smile.gif
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Yes, I do have two 580 GTX cards in that system - more heat (and noise). Running FLX fans will still be sufficient, correct? I was leaning toward FLX over PWM, but I think you just sealed the deal, thanks!

Ah, that will change a few things. I'd say stick them on the motherboard or use a fan controller (which you said you don't want to do) so you have some more control. If you're doing intensive gaming, those graphics cards are definitely going to make the most heat and noise in the system, to the point of the noise of your case fans being largely inconsequential while gaming.

You may also want to consider spending $300 to pick up a Twin Frozr GTX 970 and update your 5yr-old GPUs. I know the purpose of this experiment is to use your old and existing tech, but those GPUs are going to be taxed if you're going to play modern games at high resolution on high settings. The GTX 970 will produce a third as much heat for better performance, resulting in less noise, lower case temps, and a lower power draw from your PSU.
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@gftgy
Distance between big cable routing hole on the bottom and the side of the case roughly 180mm.
I have a 160mm long PSU (Seasonic P-660) and with it fan facing up there's no way I could fit a 140mm fan on the middle bottom position. The modular connectors are in the way. If it would be fan down then it could be possible.
The distance from back wall of the case to the front is ~457mm, and from the edge of the PSU to the front is roughly 297mm but this of course doesn't take in to consideration the modular cables.

Thank you, Lagittaja! Important question, though: Is the 457mm front to back including the front fan protrusion, or do I need to subtract another 25mm for that measurement?

If it already takes the protrusion into account, it looks like I'll be clear, but if it doesn't I'll have to rotate the bottom radiator, which means I would need 16.75mm exactly from the middle of the 140mm fan hole and the internal wall, which I don't think is available, unless maybe the rubber grommet could also be used to provide that space, depending on the height of the grommet opening and how high it is from the bottom.

I guess you can see now why I was being particular about the measurements earlier. XD
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Thank you, Lagittaja! Important question, though: Is the 457mm front to back including the front fan protrusion, or do I need to subtract another 25mm for that measurement?

If it already takes the protrusion into account, it looks like I'll be clear, but if it doesn't I'll have to rotate the bottom radiator, which means I would need 16.75mm exactly from the middle of the 140mm fan hole and the internal wall, which I don't think is available, unless maybe the rubber grommet could also be used to provide that space, depending on the height of the grommet opening and how high it is from the bottom.

I guess you can see now why I was being particular about the measurements earlier. XD

The measurement is from there to the back wall.
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The fans don't protrude unless you mount the fans on the case side of those fan mounting positions. For which I can't see a reason to do so, especially considering you're tight on space.

E: Regarding that cable routing hole. Without the grommet, the hole itself is 38mm tall and the hole is 33mm from the floor of the case (not including the fan mount bumps). It's width on the other hand is around 135mm (+-5), it's kinda hard to get a caliper in there with the lower HDD cage and PSU installed. So no guaranties on that width measurement biggrin.gif
Edited by lagittaja - 7/30/15 at 2:07pm
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post #13128 of 16055
That was the "protrusion" I was speaking of. smile.gif The front case wall is another 25mm or so forward, with the front fan housing (what you marked with the line and measured from) protruding from that wall into the case. We probably have a bit of a translation error occurring, so to clarify: I'm saying that the place where the front of a 5.25" optical drive touches the case is the inside front wall. Below the optical drive, the fans extend 25mm from that point further into the case, so that is the protrusion.

Assuming I still haven't messed something up in translation, it sounds like it will fit, so I will place the order for the case and hope the rest of it all fits together.

Thanks for the help!
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Yah, as soon as I posted that I realised what you actually meant. Didn't bother editing it out.
~457mm from the protrusion or ~482-483mm from the inside front wall to the back wall.
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post #13130 of 16055
Excellent. Placing the order. It's gonna be tight. Let's hope it works!
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