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post #13231 of 16139
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Originally Posted by Mack42 View Post

Would getting a Define S for pure air build be wrong? It feels like putting 3 120mm fans in the front gives ideal air flow throughout the case. But perhaps too noisy? Define R5 only allows for 2 such fans, at the lower half of the case.

I have three Fractal GP-14 140mm fans on the front, and a Corsair 140mm fan for exhaust along with a Hyper 212 in my Define S at the moment and it is quiet and cool even at full load. I'll probably swap out the 212 when I decide on what kind of cooling setup I want in this thing.
post #13232 of 16139
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Originally Posted by Dreamliner View Post


They do click when my ear is right up on them.

OMG dude here is a novel idea take your head out of your case and actual use your computer!!! thumb.gif
post #13233 of 16139
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Originally Posted by Mopar63 View Post

OMG dude here is a novel idea take your head out of your case and actual use your computer!!! thumb.gif
Oh gee, really?

I was mentioning that they click not complaining about it. I was simply mentioning that I only hear the click if I am right up on it, I do desire the computer to be silent from my seating position, and it is not.

It is even more frustrating because I am having trouble narrowing it down to a specific issue. I just flashed the bios on my Gigabyte GTX 970 G1 card to slow the fans down at idle and that helped quite a bit and it is now silent but the rest of the computer is not...yet.
Edited by Dreamliner - 8/24/15 at 5:55am
post #13234 of 16139
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Oh gee, really?

I was mentioning that they click not complaining about it. I was simply mentioning that I only hear the click if I am right up on it, I do desire the computer to be silent from my seating position, and it is not.

It is even more frustrating because I am having trouble narrowing it down to a specific issue. I just flashed the bios on my Gigabyte GTX 970 G1 card to slow the fans down at idle and that helped quite a bit and it is now silent but the rest of the computer is not...yet.

Truly silent computing is hard to achieve because there are so many factors. The rooms noise floor is the first. In a typical living room, large open space, the noise that would be loud in a small isolated room is nearly silent. At a LAN event the noise of a computer can be unheard but loud at home.

Next is the tonal quality. Some people hear certain noise ranges more clearly than others. This means those noise ranges will seem to produce more noise to them while others may not hear it at all.
post #13235 of 16139
Noctuas are extremely quite well worth the money. I have owned the NP 120MM and 140MM. The only truly non quite ones are the industrial s. But the ones I have hit 3000 RPM and are quite below 2000 RPM 140MM industrials. thumb.gif
post #13236 of 16139
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Originally Posted by Mopar63 View Post

Truly silent computing is hard to achieve because there are so many factors. The rooms noise floor is the first. In a typical living room, large open space, the noise that would be loud in a small isolated room is nearly silent. At a LAN event the noise of a computer can be unheard but loud at home.

Next is the tonal quality. Some people hear certain noise ranges more clearly than others. This means those noise ranges will seem to produce more noise to them while others may not hear it at all.

I fully agree with you. I hear the fishtank pump over my computer. Unless I am gaming and my fans ramp up.
post #13237 of 16139
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Originally Posted by Dreamliner View Post


They do click when my ear is right up on them. I don't know what other fans to get. I have 4 of the Fractal 140mm fans, I don't want to spend $20 each for Noctuas unless they are hands down the quietest. I just have a hard time believing there will be much of a difference at 700rpm.

TBH; the best fans I've personally used are the Antec Tricool 120mm. When spinning at ~600rpm or so, they are almost dead silent. Ever since my Refine R2, I've zip tied 2 of those fans to the inside side of the HDD cage to pull the air over the hard drives and keep the air moving to the back in the case...

I have as Intake: FRONT UPPER/LOWER & SIDE. Considering adding a bottom as I've seen that highly recommended.

I have as Exhaust: REAR

I have one more fan on the inside of the HDD cage to pull the air over my 2 WD Green drives and keep the air moving in the case.
FD fans as shipped with R4 only work in vertical position, in horizontal they vibrate a lot and make even more noise. At all speeds they click and at some speeds it can be audible depending on placement and user position.
For what they ask for these FD fans I can get two other fans from Gelid that have equal RPMs, IMHO push very similar amount of air, do not click, consume half the power when measured and work in both horizontal and vertical position without any issue.
I as well do not see the need to spend 4 times as much money on Noctuas, 1 Noctua fan = 4 Gelid fans, they are simply not 4 times better.
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Originally Posted by Dreamliner View Post

Oh gee, really?

I was mentioning that they click not complaining about it. I was simply mentioning that I only hear the click if I am right up on it, I do desire the computer to be silent from my seating position, and it is not.

It is even more frustrating because I am having trouble narrowing it down to a specific issue. I just flashed the bios on my Gigabyte GTX 970 G1 card to slow the fans down at idle and that helped quite a bit and it is now silent but the rest of the computer is not...yet.
I run my fans 500rpm 140mm, GPU is at 1100rpm 100mm fan. It's pretty darn quiet, all I can hear in a quiet night room is tiny bit of spinning and airflow noise, along with the electrical components making coil noise that can't ever be 100% avoided it's that barely hearable one that all decent power electronic devices produce.
If I stop all fans except GPU, which stops itself only on idle with monitor off, and CPU the PC is pretty much super quiet.
Hell I hear a laptop power supply brick at night or other devices and I can't stand them on so I always turns these off when ever I have any such device. But I can keep the PC running in the super quiet mode and it doesn't bother me.

You're probably spinning your fans too high, I do notice when the fans spin up 600-700rpm, the noise nearly doubles. In other terms, +3dB is double the perceived noise as far as I remember.
post #13238 of 16139
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Originally Posted by JackCY View Post

I run my fans 500rpm 140mm, GPU is at 1100rpm 100mm fan. It's pretty darn quiet, all I can hear in a quiet night room is tiny bit of spinning and airflow noise, along with the electrical components making coil noise that can't ever be 100% avoided it's that barely hearable one that all decent power electronic devices produce.
If I stop all fans except GPU, which stops itself only on idle with monitor off, and CPU the PC is pretty much super quiet.
Hell I hear a laptop power supply brick at night or other devices and I can't stand them on so I always turns these off when ever I have any such device. But I can keep the PC running in the super quiet mode and it doesn't bother me.

You're probably spinning your fans too high, I do notice when the fans spin up 600-700rpm, the noise nearly doubles. In other terms, +3dB is double the perceived noise as far as I remember.
My Sabertooth X99 board isn't letting me spin them slower than ~600 RPM on some fan headers...even with identical fans. frown.gif
Edited by Dreamliner - 8/24/15 at 8:08pm
post #13239 of 16139
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Originally Posted by Dreamliner View Post

My Sabertooth X99 board isn't letting me spin them slower than ~600 RPM on some fan headers...even with identical fans. frown.gif

I had similar issues with my Gigabyte board not wanting to properly spin the fans down, and when I got them to spin down they wouldn't reliably spin back up when things warmed up. I have them wired into the case and just run them at 5V, well I assume it is 5V. It is the low setting that is connected to SATA so I'm guessing 5V. I can barely hear them even with my head very close to , but not inside the case tongue.gif
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
core i7 4790K 4.7Ghz Gigabyte Z97X Gaming 5 MSI GTX 970 4G Gaming G, Skill Trident X 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
samsung evo 850 toshiba DT01ACA100 ( powered off ) samsung evo 850 LG WH14NS40 
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cryorig r1 ultimate windows 8.1 pro dell ultrasharp fp2007 dell ultrasharp fp2007 
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Intel G3258 Gigabyte B85M-DS3H headless - not needed  Elpida DDR3 1333 2GB Ram 
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post #13240 of 16139
Hope this isn't a stupid question but has anyone tried installing an EK-KIT X360 in an R5 case? The radiator is massive and looks like it might be problematic.

If anyone has had success with a build (or knows for sure it won't work) please let me know.

Cheers!
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