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post #13391 of 16063
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I'm looking at getting a Fractal Define S.

My only concern is how can I control all of my 3Pin Fans that I will be moving over? I will be losing my current fan controller because it sits in the Disk Drive of my Carbide 500R.

If they are pwm fans get a Swiftech 8 way pwm fan hub. http://www.swiftech.com/8-WayPWMsplitter.aspx

If they are 3 pin get a Phanteks fan hub. http://phanteks.com/PH-PWHUB.html

Both are molex or sata powered and plug into a pwm header on your motherboard and all fans connected to them can be controlled by your fan control software of choice, Speed fan Fan Xpert etc. They don't work too well with bios fan controls though. **They need to be plugged into a pwm header**
Edited by taem - 9/26/15 at 10:12am
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post #13392 of 16063
I know the Define S will fit a thin 420 on top and a 360 in front, but can anybody tell me if it will accommodate both together? I'm looking to build a loop for my CPU and two 980tis and am looking for something that will get me as much radiator space as possible in a mid-tower.
post #13393 of 16063
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Originally Posted by taem View Post

I think Define S is even better for air cooling than water cooling since you can put the front intake fans in a direct air flow path to cpu cooler. Lack of fans for hdds is the only downside. But with a tiny bit of modding you can put a hdd cage at the bottom of the front.

Can't imagine my 5400rpm drives getting that hot, but thanks for your input! thumb.gif
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Can't imagine my 5400rpm drives getting that hot, but thanks for your input! thumb.gif

My 5400rpm WD reds get pretty hot if I'm doing a big transfer and there's no fan on them. Given the high failure rates these days with huge capacity drives, I would never run hdds without fans. That's what keeps me from getting g the Define S right now.
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post #13395 of 16063
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Originally Posted by taem View Post

If they are pwm fans get a Swiftech 8 way pwm fan hub. http://www.swiftech.com/8-WayPWMsplitter.aspx

If they are 3 pin get a Phanteks fan hub. http://phanteks.com/PH-PWHUB.html

Both are molex or sata powered and plug into a pwm header on your motherboard and all fans connected to them can be controlled by your fan control software of choice, Speed fan Fan Xpert etc. They don't work too well with bios fan controls though. **They need to be plugged into a pwm header**

Absolutely brilliant, this is just what I needed. Thank you.
post #13396 of 16063
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Originally Posted by taem View Post

My 5400rpm WD reds get pretty hot if I'm doing a big transfer and there's no fan on them. Given the high failure rates these days with huge capacity drives, I would never run hdds without fans. That's what keeps me from getting g the Define S right now.

My red do hardly go above 45C without fan in the 5.25'' bay blinksmiley.gif
post #13397 of 16063
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My red do hardly go above 45C without fan in the 5.25'' bay blinksmiley.gif

I haven't seen my 3TB Red go above 41C and I've got it sandwiched pretty good in the 5.25" bay.
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post #13398 of 16063
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My red do hardly go above 45C without fan in the 5.25'' bay blinksmiley.gif

That's around where my reds will go without a fan, 45-48c range if doing a large transfer on a warm day. That's acceptable range but higher than I think is good. Imho you want to stay 30-40c. Recent white papers show that 45c is where failure rates begin to spike. Also, in a 5.25 bay, you've probably got a mesh cover in front of it? On the Define S those hdds will be sandwiched between metal sheets. I just do not like that setup.

I wonder if you can fit a drive cage from the Define R4 on to the fan mount in the bottom of the Define S.

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Originally Posted by lagittaja View Post

I haven't seen my 3TB Red go above 41C and I've got it sandwiched pretty good in the 5.25" bay.

You're in Finland...


Edited by taem - 9/26/15 at 11:38am
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post #13399 of 16063
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Originally Posted by Sorphius View Post

I know the Define S will fit a thin 420 on top and a 360 in front, but can anybody tell me if it will accommodate both together? I'm looking to build a loop for my CPU and two 980tis and am looking for something that will get me as much radiator space as possible in a mid-tower.

This is the most radiator I have seen.

http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1284479
post #13400 of 16063
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Originally Posted by taem View Post

That's around where my reds will go without a fan, 45-48c range if doing a large transfer on a warm day. That's acceptable range but higher than I think is good. Imho you want to stay 30-40c. Recent white papers show that 45c is where failure rates begin to spike. Also, in a 5.25 bay, you've probably got a mesh cover in front of it? On the Define S those hdds will be sandwiched between metal sheets. I just do not like that setup.

I wonder if you can fit a drive cage from the Define R4 on to the fan mount in the bottom of the Define S.
You're in Finland...


hurr durr. I don't keep my PC outside biggrin.gif
I have the drive in the lower 5.25" bay, front of the bay is sealed with duct tape and the upper bay is occupied by my BD drive. I've got the drive sandwiched in there with foam from PSU packaging.
No direct airflow on the drive, only thing is the Slip Stream 120mm fan (800rpm) I have on the HR-02 Macho that might have a slight effect on the drive, shouldn't be much of an effect though..



It ain't pretty but it works.

Also, what white papers? Could you throw me a link? I'm genuinely interested.
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