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My stance is watercooled is generally quieter and has lower temps at load, hence it's the king of cooling.

True this especially when folding 24/7. I have done both air, water cooling, and AIO. I take an AIO or water cool the GPU over an air cooler any day. Otherwise poor GPU sounds like a killer bee going off inside the case. I know from running a 960, 980, 7970, and Titans with air coolers. Far better once I smacked them under water. The 980 STRIX was super bad, I could hear it over the window A/C.

Plus, since my rigs are in the living room. They need to stay quite which the AIOs and water blocks easily do the job while still allowing me to fold and abuse the crap out of them.
 
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isn't there a water vs air forum you-all can take this to?

What next? will the case forum be debating AMD vs nVidia ?
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isn't there a water vs air forum you-all can take this to?

What next? will the case forum be debating AMD vs nVidia ?

It is all very relevant.

FD makes some great water-cooling friendly cases.
post #14134 of 16136
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Hi, I'm looking for some info on the Fractal Design Nano S case.
I wanted to know if I could mount a 120mm fan on the bottom of the case in front of the psu, if I used the bracket to mount a HDD vertically beside the motherboard.

Also, I was wondering how you guys solved the problem of the moduvent opening the case for dust. Should I simply leave it on?
I was planning on using this setup: Picture (Click to show)
Would the airflow be sufficent, or am I forced to open up the top to dust to install one or two 120mm fans?
Thank you.
It all depends on what you are going to run in there and what temperatures you are after.

Having build in it, let me share a couple of things that I experienced with it:
  • The bottom fan can be tricky depending on how long your PSU is and how neatly the cabling can be done .. but yes there's a spot there.
  • There's very little space between the PSU and most air-cooled videocards - it may not be ideal. Also feeding the PSU with hot air - not sure if that's optimal.
  • There's plenty builds that just have 2 front fans (140mm) and 1 at the back.
  • Thermally for your SSD and HDD drive at the back, the case works better with negative case pressure (air gets sucked in at the front, rather than blown back in with positive pressure)
  • Removing one of the top-grommet above the motherboard will help SSD temps a bit
     
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Can you turn the moduvent in a filter? Thats the only downside to this case.
I dont want to have negative pressure and have my pc fill up with dust from the top and I dont want dust to get in the computer when its turned off.
Therefore, I thought of using the moduvent as a mounting mechanism for a filter. I would cut the inside with a dremel and attach a simple filter mesh inside. Is that doable?
post #14136 of 16136
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Can you turn the moduvent in a filter? Thats the only downside to this case.
I dont want to have negative pressure and have my pc fill up with dust from the top and I dont want dust to get in the computer when its turned off.
Therefore, I thought of using the moduvent as a mounting mechanism for a filter. I would cut the inside with a dremel and attach a simple filter mesh inside. Is that doable?

I guess it could be done. Which case do you have ?

I cut the moduvents on my Define S to avoid dust getting into the case from the top when there was a 420 radiator in the top.

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I want to buy the define nano s. Single piece moduvent. I could probably get my friends CNC to do a clean inside cut and double side tape some filter material on the inside. I could leave 10-11mm all around and use some u-channel rubber to hide the cut. What is your opinion on this?
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I'd love to see Fractal to offer an optional or go back to a topcover like the Arc Midi R2 - looks a lot better. Just a little bit less suited for low-rpm silent builds.

Here's my go with modding a moduvent (Define Nano). Not sure what I will do with my Define S build..

Edited by 44TZL - 5/15/16 at 4:22pm
     
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How did you get this result? What tools should I use and what problems did you face? That's exactly the result im looking for, but with a cleaner edge.
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How did you get this result? What tools should I use and what problems did you face? That's exactly the result im looking for, but with a cleaner edge.
As far as where to cut, this one leaves 16 mm on the left, 18mm on the back, 40mm on the front and 66 mm on the right. So the gap that was created opens the area up for 2x120mm fans, it does not restrict airflow much, but still does not show the fan/rad mounting. I think for looks it's important to closely match the 2 distance on the back and the left so it sort of looks like it was intentionally designed.

Tools. I used a new stanley knife and metal guide rail to do the cut. Takes a bit of effort and care, especially not to overshoot cutting it. I also used a hard form to cut on, so the sound dampening material didn't come off (looks more for show anyway, it's very light material) .

Regarding the finish... yes, I didn't do a proper finish yet. Bit of sanding and spray with a non-gloss black paint could solve most of that I'd say.
I had a look if I could find an DIY magnet strip + mesh.. but there's no kits for sale anywhere. The Air 240 case had this very nice magnetic side filter.. Such a filter could sit nearly flush with the rest of the moduvent. Like this..

Edited by 44TZL - 5/15/16 at 5:15pm
     
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