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Would anyone recommend a slightly larger Mini ITX chassis for this, assuming I don't cut my "losses" and drop an Intel Core i5 and associated components in the Node 202 in a few months?
The node 202 is a pretty sweet case, if GPU throttling is the main issue, why not fix that? Your 380 has quite a high TDP for such a compact case. I'd say a lower TDP card , perhaps with a blower fan will help you out most. If you can wait, then next gen of cards (RX480) will be very good for that purpose. Current Gen, you'll have to look for Nvidia's cards like the 970. I'll be going for the GD05 + 2nd hand 980 for my HTPC build which is still below the 380's TDP yet faster.
     
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post #14292 of 16068
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The node 202 is a pretty sweet case, if GPU throttling is the main issue, why not fix that? Your 380 has quite a high TDP for such a compact case. I'd say a lower TDP card , perhaps with a blower fan will help you out most. If you can wait, then next gen of cards (RX480) will be very good for that purpose. Current Gen, you'll have to look for Nvidia's cards like the 970. I'll be going for the GD05 + 2nd hand 980 for my HTPC build which is still below the 380's TDP yet faster.

The GPU isn't throttling. The APU is. I'm not looking at a 970 because it's an AMD processor which, more likely than not, is going to bottleneck the GPU once you get up to around the 380X range or so. The TDP is fine for 1080p, not overclocking the card, and as stated, it doesn't throttle. It stays in the 60s and 70s at load.

The APU is the more recent 65W Godavari release. The cooler is meant for 65W and lower TDP APUs. There are better coolers, but hard to find one with better reviews that also fits in under 56mm in height.

RX480 is probably where I would go later on, but if the APU situation isn't rectified by a new fan, I am not sure what else to do short of getting recommendations for a replacement AMD cooler that also fits in the Node 202.
Edited by mypickaxe - 6/16/16 at 10:38pm
post #14293 of 16068
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The GPU isn't throttling. The APU is. I'm not looking at a 970 because it's an AMD processor which, more likely than not, is going to bottleneck the GPU once you get up to around the 380X range or so. The TDP is fine for 1080p, not overclocking the card, and as stated, it doesn't throttle. It stays in the 60s and 70s at load.

The APU is the more recent 65W Godavari release. The cooler is meant for 65W and lower TDP APUs. There are better coolers, but hard to find one with better reviews that also fits in under 56mm in height.

RX480 is probably where I would go later on, but if the APU situation isn't rectified by a new fan, I am not sure what else to do short of getting recommendations for a replacement AMD cooler that also fits in the Node 202.
But aren't the fans that blow onto your GPU also feeding your CPU area? Aka all that heated air then still needs to cool the CPU?
     
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You need a decent CPU cooler for AMD CPUs which doesn't go well with small cases. The 380 GPU will also generate a lot of heat under full load and that heat gets stuck inside the case unless you have a good in/out airflow.
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Hey! I'm new to the forums and frankly haven't found anything that useful from my searches while lurking, so I'll post my questions here;

I'm looking to build my first ever PC. A gaming PC capable of running 1080p 60fps easily, more towards to the +100hz mark, and 1440p 60fps when I have the funds for a monitor. The thing is, I've always had a crush on ITX builds and I really want to do one just for the sake of it. My question lies here:

Would a Define Nano S be sufficient for my build when using an aftermarket GTX 1070 and air cooling for the whole package? I'm worried about thermal throttling for the GPU, and thermals over all, just because I come from a laptop which could literally boil water with its components. As much as I'd over a ITX build, I won't do it if the thermals would be anything more than tolerable.

My second question is: Is it a wise choice to go for a SFX PSU to give the GPU more breathing room? Is there any downsides on SFX compared to a normal ATX PSU?

And third and the last question for now: What kind of fan setup is advised to have on the Define Nano S? I reckon that one exhaust, two intakes and the CPU cooler fans would suffice, but is that so? Also what kind of fans are advised to be used and should the usage as an intake or as an exhaust matter when choosing fans?

http://de.pcpartpicker.com/user/dAEN/saved/b4bFf7 Here is a PCPP build draft I've made, please do take a look at it and point out anything that would seem like a bad bet. Thanks before hand!
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Hey! I'm new to the forums and frankly haven't found anything that useful from my searches while lurking, so I'll post my questions here;
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I'm looking to build my first ever PC. A gaming PC capable of running 1080p 60fps easily, more towards to the +100hz mark, and 1440p 60fps when I have the funds for a monitor. The thing is, I've always had a crush on ITX builds and I really want to do one just for the sake of it. My question lies here:

Would a Define Nano S be sufficient for my build when using an aftermarket GTX 1070 and air cooling for the whole package? I'm worried about thermal throttling for the GPU, and thermals over all, just because I come from a laptop which could literally boil water with its components. As much as I'd over a ITX build, I won't do it if the thermals would be anything more than tolerable.

My second question is: Is it a wise choice to go for a SFX PSU to give the GPU more breathing room? Is there any downsides on SFX compared to a normal ATX PSU?

And third and the last question for now: What kind of fan setup is advised to have on the Define Nano S? I reckon that one exhaust, two intakes and the CPU cooler fans would suffice, but is that so? Also what kind of fans are advised to be used and should the usage as an intake or as an exhaust matter when choosing fans?

http://de.pcpartpicker.com/user/dAEN/saved/b4bFf7 Here is a PCPP build draft I've made, please do take a look at it and point out anything that would seem like a bad bet. Thanks before hand!
A 1070 would easily get you that performance.. it's somewhat overkill already. I ran a comparable but hotter running 980Ti in the Nano. The only issue is the clearance from videocard to PSU.. so thick cards can hit the PSU and airflow at the back is very limited. Watercooling will solve that best IMO, but sure SFX would be a way to go. SFX will be louder under load and will leave a gap at the back of the case. If you're not all that concerned about the best OC, you could also go normal PSU and just get a blower type card.

Generally you won't have any thermal issues in this case.. it's not that small and a 1070 doesn't dissipate much heat. You may get away with running just front (2x140mm) to back airflow and keep the moduvent on for bit more silence. Especially when you go blower style GPU.

This a pic from my last setup. Could run the fans at 800-1000 rpm even at full load (4690K @ 4.5-4.8Ghz + 980Ti @ 1526Mhz.. total system drew about 375W when gaming)
View with the side panel open. It was all a tight fit. The front fans are pull, top ones push.
     
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SFX is smaller and you might need to drill a couple holes to screw it into the case or get an adaptor for SFX to ATX PSU.
I like the Corsair SF450/SF600. Other options from ATX are RM550x and EVGA 550 G2. They all have hybrid fan mode.

Parts are always a preference and the partpicker doesn't have all parts I might use.
There is not much to choose the board. Cooler I picked 2 of my favorite that have far better price performance than the old huge Noctua.

I don't think you will notice the 3000 RAM vs 2400 RAM but the difference is like 10 EUR?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (€238.63 @ Amazon Deutschland)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright HR-02 Rev.A(BW) 73.6 CFM CPU Cooler (€46.23 @ Amazon Deutschland)
OR
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler
I would go with H7 Universal since it's smaller and shouldn't have an issue in this tiny ITX case unlike the bigger coolers that have around 160mm height and may not always fit as who knows how FD measures the true clearance.
Motherboard: Asus Z170I PRO GAMING Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard (€147.11 @ Amazon Deutschland)
There are not many options for ITX on PCPP.
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€76.84 @ Mindfactory)
10EUR cheaper RAM will give you the same performance user experience wise
Storage: Sandisk Ultra II 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€67.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
I don't like TLC drives but MLCs are a bit more expensive.
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€98.84 @ Mindfactory)
Pointless to get an expensive 1TB when you can get 3TB for not even double the price.
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card (€499.00)
There might be cheaper options from other brands.
Case: Fractal Design Define Nano S Mini ITX Desktop Case (€80.00)
Case is always a personal preference, I don't know if there are better ITX cases for the money.
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
Definitely either ATX Corsair RM550x or EVGA 550 G2. I don't think the updated Leadex based GL and GX are available yet.
If you want SFX take Corsair SF450 or SF600, they are better than the Silverstone 500 and have better price/performance.
Case Fan: Noctua NF-F12 PWM 55.0 CFM 120mm Fan (€19.79 @ Aquatuning)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-A14 PWM 82.5 CFM 140mm Fan (€21.79 @ Aquatuning)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-A14 PWM 82.5 CFM 140mm Fan (€21.79 @ Aquatuning)
I think Noctua fans are overpriced, if you search shops you can find decent fans and fill the whole case with them for the price of 1 Noctua fan. I got my 140mm 1000rpm fans for like 4EUR each and they are quieter than stock FD fans. 22EUR for 1 Noctua is just a rip off. Again fans are personal preference.
Total: €1318.01
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-17 16:16 CEST+0200

Personally I would fill front with 2x140mm, bottom 120mm, rear 120mm, or what ever the largest fans fit.
With PSU a SF450 should be tiny compared to ATX, it is still hybrid fan, and you could just mount it on the base of the case instead of floating in the air with an adaptor bracket. Drilling 3 3mm holes should be a piece of cake if you cannot reuse some of the already present PSU mount holes.
Edited by JackCY - 6/17/16 at 7:35am
post #14298 of 16068
Hello,

I have Arch midi R2 and I have problems with USB3.0 and sound (AUX) connector = front interface.

So Audio in/out have problems with detection and one USB3.0 doesnt work.

Looks like case have defective jacks.

Any help how to fix this?
Edited by Themisseble - 6/17/16 at 8:09am
post #14299 of 16068
Ask FD for replacement part if it's broken. That seems to be what people here did when having issues with the front I/O. And FD will rather send you a replacement part than having to send a whole case back and forth under warranty.
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But aren't the fans that blow onto your GPU also feeding your CPU area? Aka all that heated air then still needs to cool the CPU?

In theory yes, but it's compartmentalized, and there is decent ventilation in the holes drilled next to the GPU. Also, the CPU area has ventilation on the right (or top if vertically mounted) and directly over the CPU for intake.

I haven't ruled anything out, and not being argumentative, just pointing out that with the stock cooler on it, the throttling wasn't evident, but the lid wouldn't fit, so that it's hard to say scientifically if it is "trapped hot air" or just a better cooler overall (with a better fan.)

So, having said that, I put in a 92x25mm fan.It's the "Arctic F9" for anyone wondering. I will test that and see if I get any better results.

Thanks for input.
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You need a decent CPU cooler for AMD CPUs which doesn't go well with small cases. The 380 GPU will also generate a lot of heat under full load and that heat gets stuck inside the case unless you have a good in/out airflow.

True, but remember this is a 65W part, not the 95W that is typical with AMD today. So, in theory, there should be less heat to dissipate.

The room is relatively cool (central air at 71 Fahrenheit.) I don't have the case cooped up in a closed off area.

Should be able to say definitively whether or not I can make this work later on today after some more testing.
Edited by mypickaxe - 6/17/16 at 11:03am
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