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Has anyone tried fitting EK CE 420 + EK CE 280 in a define r5 or define S ? I`d like to upgrade my rad game and move up to 140mm fans since I already have 5x phanteks F140mp fans.
Did the same thing and it's just the best for quiet computing the move to 140mm. I've got a Hardware labs GTS Xflow 420 + 280 in a Define S. They're longer than the CEs but thinner.

Your issue will be the 45mm thickness of the top rad. You'll have to to go for low profile RAM (under 35mm at least at the ends) and VRM cooling under 35mm else you won't get the fans in.

The position of the slots could also influence this. In X99 at least, Gigabyte and ASRock place their RAM slots up higher than MSI and ASUS. I've got an MSI X99A SLI + Kingston Hyper X and the CE420 would fit. The 280 won't be an issue at all. So it's really up to getting the right components together.
Edited by 44TZL - 6/20/16 at 2:03am
     
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I think im good got some low profile kingstons and an asus z170a wich has mem slots lower, but if someones done the exact same thing would be nice to confirm.
post #14323 of 16135
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I think im good got some low profile kingstons and an asus z170a wich has mem slots lower, but if someones done the exact same thing would be nice to confirm.
True. But sometimes you just need to measure it out and theoritically figure out.

Here's the situation with a 30mm rad with 25mm EK Fans. The clearance to the motherboard is 35mm.
     
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Yeah it would be nice if mobo, case, ram, cooling companies made some kind of standard and agree about the free space around CPU area, so that coolers can fit without issues on any regular combination.
Right now you have to measure everything before you buy it even buy it and test it and return it if it doesn't fit.

I think there is some standard for the CPU cooler like air coolers but not RAM vs water cooling in a case.

Some mobos, like mine have EPS up top on the board so water cooling might cover that EPS and make it a real PITA.
post #14325 of 16135
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Originally Posted by 44TZL View Post

True. But sometimes you just need to measure it out and theoritically figure out.

Here's the situation with a 30mm rad with 25mm EK Fans. The clearance to the motherboard is 35mm.

This makes me wonder if I can fit Hardware Labs Black Ice SR2 420, now that would be sweet thumb.gif
I have a feeling I have to rip of the motherboards IO plastic cover for that tho.
And further investigating the benefits of thicker rads I found that going thicker and more expensive doesn`t actually
give me anything at my desired push/1300rpm area.


Edited by outofmyheadyo - 6/20/16 at 1:45pm
post #14326 of 16135
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This makes me wonder if I can fit Hardware Labs Black Ice SR2 420, now that would be sweet thumb.gif
I have a feeling I have to rip of the motherboards IO plastic cover for that tho.
And further investigating the benefits of thicker rads I found that going thicker and more expensive doesn`t actually
give me anything at my desired push/1300rpm area.
Looking at that, yes it will be close with IO covers.. if they are a couple of mm over the actual I/O shield it would be fine.

Regarding the performance...hat's one of the reason I went with the GTS Xflow.. there's very little to gain with thickness of a rad. If so a GTS ot GTS Xflow in push/pull is better than anything in push for the same thickness. Anyway I research with the intention of running between 500 - 800 rpm.

That testing by xtreme rigs is good, but I question if their tested heatsource of 300W is enough to tell the real capacity of a rad. The efficiency of longer rads seems to drop off quite a bit I think as a result of lower efficiency at lower temperatures (over ambient).

Here's from their thickness vs cooling graph which has a much larger sample size in 360 rads
     
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post #14327 of 16135
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This makes me wonder if I can fit Hardware Labs Black Ice SR2 420, now that would be sweet thumb.gif
I have a feeling I have to rip of the motherboards IO plastic cover for that tho.
And further investigating the benefits of thicker rads I found that going thicker and more expensive doesn`t actually
give me anything at my desired push/1300rpm area.


Seriously. Can anyone tell me how to find out my flow rate? All these places saying 1GPM is ideal, yet I have no idea how they reach this number. It's been suggested to fill/drain my loop at the same time and see how long it takes for me to fill a gallon tank (or any increment of and multiply), but that seems iffy at best. Since it's not taking into account other parts of the loop.

/shrug

Are there any legit flow meters that actually give you GPM instead of just spinning randomly?
post #14328 of 16135
Isn't GPM something like volume/time? That's quite simple to measure and yes those spinning thingies can give you that measurement too.
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Isn't GPM something like volume/time? That's quite simple to measure and yes those spinning thingies can give you that measurement too.

How do those spinny things tell you anything?
post #14330 of 16135
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Isn't GPM something like volume/time? That's quite simple to measure and yes those spinning thingies can give you that measurement too.

GPM = Gallons Per Minute. So depending on the amount of water flowing during one minute, you can figure out how many gallons it is pushing during that minute.
 
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