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I went the watercooling way but the other path is through passive cooling indeed. Prolimatech has very good coolers for that. See here in another post - it's fan assisted there but I'm sure next gen could run fine on that. I would think that something like a Corsair Air 540 with one 140mm fan up to could do a very good job. Quite interested to see the new Corsair ML line of fans as well - no bearing noise is an attractrive prospect.
     
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Fans have 400-800 RPM range. But like I said, my hearing is just crazy, few fans even at as low speed as 400 RPM humming in case below my desk is enough to distract me at times. I hate this. Sounds inaudible for others are annoying to me. For example my MSI 980 Ti I sold few weeks ago was whining like crazy for me, while no one from my family was able to hear it and guy who bought this card from me also said that he is not hearing any coil whine, like completely none. Not to mention what happened when I got 980 Ti Hybrid with its pump noise... This is just stupid, there is no advantage of having such sensitive hearing, it is not only useless but also annoying as fcuk.

But after long fight with stupid build of my old case, I was able to get fan controller out, it is working on 5V-OFF-12V, so problem is solved. 7V introduces a lot of rattling so I wouldn't use it anyway. I will mount it to one of those 5.25 covers from Define R5. I have two fans in front, one on the bottom near PSU and one on side panel, so it should be enough intake even at 5V. I plan to get RX480 and then get Vega, so I will just make fans of GPU not to exceed case fans noise levels and I will get my desired nearly silent gaming. And with Vega we will see how hot will it be and how cooling solutions evolve, I am really interested in Raijintek passive water cooling. Sound like dream solution, I wonder what performance it can provide.
I hear ya, it's the same here on OCN, most people are deaf and noise doesn't bother them.

But the AIO passive WC is more of a dream than a working solution, the pump/flow action provided is likely to be so small making an effective cooler out of it is not going to be any more effective than using a simply aluminum air cooler which have been around for decades and work well.

I do not know why fan makers didn't use magnetic bearings yet really, it's the most obvious choice for a bearing that makes no noise and doesn't need maintenance. I don't like ball bearings as they are the loudest, most expensive to make, easy to break if not done in quality, ... sure they are better than plastic sleeve bearings but if one uses a quality sleeve like bearings they are near silent and last forever. And when it comes to extreme loads/forces ball bearings are the last to go with as they are easy to overload and fail. Don't even think about dust and particles inside the ball bearings housing, noise and fail. So I don't get the PC market's obsession with ball bearings. I guess it's because they tend to make them in higher quality than they bother with sleeve bearings quality. Fans being electro magnetic motors, magnetic bearings to me is a no brainer especially since fans have light load/forces/torque.
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I'm looking to build a simple loop in a Fractal Design S case.

How are people handling draining their loops in this case? I want to have a gpu block, cpu block, 360 rad and tube res/pump combo. I would prefer to not have a ugly line pushed off to the side to drain it and I'm probably over complicating this whole thing.

I just purchased this case btw smile.gif
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Duh what? Don't most DIY WC have a drain port somewhere on the bottom of the case/loop so gravity bleeds the system? It's more of a Q for water cooling thread really.
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It probably is a question for the water cooling forum but I don't have a problem with him asking it here either. I'd like to think the owners clubs are a good place where owners can bond and maybe branch out a bit when help is needed.

As for the draining port, yeah, most have a small piece of tubing or a valve or something. Another option I think would be just unscrewing one of the ports on the res/pump and draining it from there. Yeah it's a little less elegant than having a dedicated setup but should work.
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I'm kind of glad my hearing is not that sensitive, but then again six years around jet engines does a number on one's ears. Bad thing was developing that annoying ringing sound in my right ear that comes and goes. Talk about something that can drive you nuts.
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Originally Posted by JAM3S121 View Post

I'm looking to build a simple loop in a Fractal Design S case.

How are people handling draining their loops in this case? I want to have a gpu block, cpu block, 360 rad and tube res/pump combo. I would prefer to not have a ugly line pushed off to the side to drain it and I'm probably over complicating this whole thing.

I just purchased this case btw smile.gif

Best thing is a drain valve at your lowest point in the loop. Otherwise, it can be a royal pain to drain one without a drain port.
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Originally Posted by JAM3S121 View Post

I'm looking to build a simple loop in a Fractal Design S case.

How are people handling draining their loops in this case? I want to have a gpu block, cpu block, 360 rad and tube res/pump combo. I would prefer to not have a ugly line pushed off to the side to drain it and I'm probably over complicating this whole thing.

I just purchased this case btw smile.gif

If you get a T fitting like this:
http://www.watercoolinguk.co.uk/p/Alphacool-Connection-Terminal-TEE-T-Piece-round-G14-Deep-Black_54215.html

and combine it with a drain valve like this:-
http://www.watercoolinguk.co.uk/p/EK-Water-Blocks-EK-AF-Ball-Valve-10mm-G1--4-Ball-valve-black_55364.html

Then you're good to go, make sure you have a female to female adapter too, and put it at the lowest point of your loop.
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Duh what? Don't most DIY WC have a drain port somewhere on the bottom of the case/loop so gravity bleeds the system? It's more of a Q for water cooling thread really.

Not really, I've had a few rigs without a drain valve, but they tend to be soft tubing loops. If you have a multiport rad you can undo one port at the highest point, put a fitting and a tube on it then turn the case and drain.
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It probably is a question for the water cooling forum but I don't have a problem with him asking it here either. I'd like to think the owners clubs are a good place where owners can bond and maybe branch out a bit when help is needed.

As for the draining port, yeah, most have a small piece of tubing or a valve or something. Another option I think would be just unscrewing one of the ports on the res/pump and draining it from there. Yeah it's a little less elegant than having a dedicated setup but should work.

Works well see reply above this.
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I'm kind of glad my hearing is not that sensitive, but then again six years around jet engines does a number on one's ears. Bad thing was developing that annoying ringing sound in my right ear that comes and goes. Talk about something that can drive you nuts.
Best thing is a drain valve at your lowest point in the loop. Otherwise, it can be a royal pain to drain one without a drain port.

Not really that much of a pain, depends on the set up really.
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Originally Posted by JAM3S121 View Post

I'm looking to build a simple loop in a Fractal Design S case.

How are people handling draining their loops in this case? I want to have a gpu block, cpu block, 360 rad and tube res/pump combo. I would prefer to not have a ugly line pushed off to the side to drain it and I'm probably over complicating this whole thing.

I just purchased this case btw smile.gif

I have a Node 804, not the S, but the drain for my loop is just a piece of flex tubing with a plug in the end. Not very elegant. My original intent was to install a panel pass through on the bottom of the case and have a valve between that and the pump. I just didn't have enough room for the valve and its fittings. This seems to work though and you can't see it being in the back of the case.

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