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I just installed a SSD in my Fractal r5 fitting it behind the motherboard tray, only problem is i noticed it gets quite warm there idling away at 33 degrees while my WD black is at 29..Is it safe to leave it there or should i stick it in the hdd tray so the front fans can blow over it
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I just installed a SSD in my Fractal r5 fitting it behind the motherboard tray, only problem is i noticed it gets quite warm there idling away at 33 degrees while my WD black is at 29..Is it safe to leave it there or should i stick it in the hdd tray so the front fans can blow over it
you are right to question this. idling temp isn't exactly a problem, but load temp is. i don't know why tech media brainwashed people into thinking SSDs don't need cooling, but that couldn't be further from truth. i would suggest putting your ssd in front hdd cage where it can get proper airflow to minimize thermal throttling, if you want best performance.

also i don't know why case makers put ssd trays behind mobo or other tight spaces without any airflow. that just continues misinformation trend that SSDs don't require cooling, which is false.

SSDs get really hot really fast under load!
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you are right to question this. idling temp isn't exactly a problem, but load temp is. i don't know why tech media brainwashed people into thinking SSDs don't need cooling, but that couldn't be further from truth. i would suggest putting your ssd in front hdd cage where it can get proper airflow to minimize thermal throttling, if you want best performance.

also i don't know why case makers put ssd trays behind mobo or other tight spaces without any airflow. that just continues misinformation trend that SSDs don't require cooling, which is false.

SSDs get really hot really fast under load!

All I have is an SSD in my rig and I game etc with it, it has never slowed and when I benched it it got warm but never slowed down. SSDs have no moving parts and I can tell you that a hard drive back there will get a lot warmer.

There is airflow to the rear of the motherboard in my Define S due to the amount of intake fans I have, it's impossible for my front fans and PSU to remove all that air so none of it cools my SSD etc.
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All I have is an SSD in my rig and I game etc with it, it has never slowed and when I benched it it got warm but never slowed down. SSDs have no moving parts and I can tell you that a hard drive back there will get a lot warmer.

There is airflow to the rear of the motherboard in my Define S due to the amount of intake fans I have, it's impossible for my front fans and PSU to remove all that air so none of it cools my SSD etc.
forget moving parts. cpu doesn't have moving parts either, nor does gpu, but they produce heat. in ssd it's controller that heats up and also flash memory, but not so much. the faster ssd the quicker and more it heats up. just because it didn't heat up for you while you ran 30 second benchmark doesn't mean much.

i don't care if you don't cool your ssd, it's up to you what you do with your system, but don't go around telling other people that ssds don't heat up, because that's just false.


post #14705 of 16139
Darn, that is one toasty SSD stick. Yeah, I don't like the idea of any electronic without air flow of some sort. Reason I may make a custom mount for my SSD to put in the Define S when I move parts over to it. Thinking of setting it a little off the floor behind the radiator I plan to use. That way it gets some air flow over it.
 
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It is blinking when powered on. Don't use standby, so don't know how about it.
Anyway, I keep HDD activity LED unplugged now, and it's much much better, no frusturating blinking, just steady white color.

Oh so it
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Guys, I need advise.

I have a Fractal Define R4 and I think about liquid (water) cooling.
I thought install 2 radiators for 280mm (one on up and one front of basket with HDDs (basket I can move to 50mm from front panel)) OR install one 280mm radiator and 2 for 140 mm, pump and reservoir which install in place for DVD drive.

What is the better choice will be for my configuration?

Thank you.
I hope my english is understandable.


280 mm rads are unfortunately a no-go in the R4, so 120/140/240 mm are the options you'd be looking at. A 240 mm will fit in the top position with no conflicts for most configurations. The front doesn't technically support water cooling, but people have installed up to 240 mm rads by disregarding two of the screw holes. You can do a single 120/140 mm rad in the rear position though.
post #14707 of 16139
If you need to test rad sizes just get the dimensions of the rad you want to buy, cut it out of cardboard and test it. Don't forget to check for height issues including fans.
Unless you want to mod the case your options will be limited with R4 a little.
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Oh so it
280 mm rads are unfortunately a no-go in the R4, so 120/140/240 mm are the options you'd be looking at. A 240 mm will fit in the top position with no conflicts for most configurations. The front doesn't technically support water cooling, but people have installed up to 240 mm rads by disregarding two of the screw holes. You can do a single 120/140 mm rad in the rear position though.
thumb.gif thank you for quick answer!
Probably I will install 2*240mm (thickness 60mm and 45mm (bigger in front panel on front of basket with disks).
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System specs (Click to show)
CPU: Intel Core i7 - 4960X Extreme Edition
CPU/Video Fan: MO-RA3 420 PRO Black
Motherboard: Asus Rampage IV Formula
Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum CMD32GX3M4A1866C9
Video: Asus GeForce GTX 1080 ROG Strix OC
Audio: Asus Xonar Phoebus
SSD: 512Gb SSD Samsung 850 Pro Series
SSD: 2Tb SSD Samsung 850 Pro Series
CDD: LG BP50NB40
PSU: 1000W Seasonic Platinum SS-1000XP
Case: Fractal Design Define S Window Black
Monitor: 27" BenQ XL2720T
Keyboard: Corsair Gaming K70 Rapidfire
Mouse: Zowie ZA11
Gamepad: Microsoft Xbox One Elite Controller
Web Cam: Logitech HD Pro Webcam C920
Router: Asus RT-AC68U
Headset: Beyerdynamic MMX 300 Black
Acoustic: Edifier Studio 8 R2800
UPS: 1000ВА APC Smart-UPS 1000
OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64bit

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CPU: Intel Core i7 - 4960X Extreme Edition
CPU/Video Fan: MO-RA3 420 PRO Black
Motherboard: Asus Rampage IV Formula
Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum CMD32GX3M4A1866C9
Video: Asus GeForce GTX 1080 ROG Strix OC
Audio: Asus Xonar Phoebus
SSD: 512Gb SSD Samsung 850 Pro Series
SSD: 2Tb SSD Samsung 850 Pro Series
CDD: LG BP50NB40
PSU: 1000W Seasonic Platinum SS-1000XP
Case: Fractal Design Define S Window Black
Monitor: 27" BenQ XL2720T
Keyboard: Corsair Gaming K70 Rapidfire
Mouse: Zowie ZA11
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Router: Asus RT-AC68U
Headset: Beyerdynamic MMX 300 Black
Acoustic: Edifier Studio 8 R2800
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Mortal kombat? Looks amazing, I need to get an air brush and start playing with stuff like this.
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