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I also swapped out my stock FD fans for 3 Noiseblockers...and now I walk in my office and have to look at the LED to ensure that my PC is actually on...and that's with a "meshy" Arc Mini. smile.gif

I also like to swap the stock fans im in doubt with which the 140mm noiseblockers or the new revealed fractal silent series R2 with hydro bearings http://www.fractal-design.com/?view=product&category=4&prod=19
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Hey Fractal club! I'm looking into a Fractal case for the summer and I've got a few questions so I thought this would be a good place to start.

Basically I'm looking at either the define r3, define mini, ard midi, or arc mini. I eventually want to fit 2 240mm (or 2 280mm) rads in. I'm thinking the best way to go is to put one in the top and the other in the bottom. For the bottom, I would remove a few of the lower hard drive cages and put it in front of the psu, cutting a hole in the bottom. I'm hoping to keep the clean look of the case.

For each of the cases, will a 240 rad fit in front of the psu? I'm thinking of a corsair ax series, all of which are ~160mm, then room for the cables to come out. I'm hoping to fit push/pull, to ~50mm for both sets of fans then the thickness of the rad.
I believe the arc midi is specifically designed for a 240 rad in the top, but how about the others? Will it fit over the motherboard and such? The define mini is the only one without 2 120mm vents, I would cut a hole and use a new grill. Again, hoping to fit push/pull.
Finally, if I buy an arc series case, and I buy the define front panel and put it on? I really like the look of that front panel. If I don't buy a define I will probably add my own acoustic foam.
Last question: Is the define really that bad with cooling? I hear the door severely limits the front fan's intake. If the front panel is that much of a problem, will adding the side fan be sufficient? I think the other option is to use the bottom rad setup as intake.

Thanks for any feedback, I emailed Fractal too. I let you guys know what they say if you're interested.
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Define front panels will not work with Arc chassis, because the size is different (both width and height).

It will be a lot easier to watercool the Arc midi, than it would be to add rads to a Define. The whole point of the Define is quiet air cooling.
Since water loops with large rads can be run much quieter than air coolers on CPUs and GPUs, i don't quite see why you would want to sound dampen the case anyway. Optics are nicer on the Defines, though. Another reason why i got myself an R3. smile.gif

Push-Pull will probably not work for a top mounted rad in any of the Defines. Ram and MB-heatsink clearance will put a stop to that. In the R3, there are about 30mm of space between the edge of the motherboard and the top of the case.

No matter which case, if you are going to take out the HDD cages, why not put the rad in the front? Less dust and you don't need to cut holes into the case.

The Defines are not bad with cooling, considering they are closed cases designed for quiet systems. You need to make use of the optional fan slots though. Which is why the Defines show bad cooling performance in "reviews" where they only use the two stock fans. Someone on this forum put an overclocked quadcore and 2x 7950 at stock clocks into a Define Mini and it works nicely.
The only thing i would be hesitant to put into a Define is a system with more than one overclocked graphics card on top of the overclocked CPU.
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I'm thinking of picking up a R3 for my venture back into desktops. I looked over this review, and a side intake + rear exhaust seems to be the best set up for two fans.

I'm planning to get a 3570K (overclocking to whatever yields the best temp/perf) with a 212+ evo, and 660ti if that comes out next month or June.
Would I be able to fit a side fan in there with the 212, and would it be best to pick up some noiseblockers, loons, or Fractal's new fans to replace the stock ones that come with the R3 and 212?
I want it to be quiet but can't have it running hot of course, since I want this build to last about 3-4 years. Rest of what I want in there is in my sig.
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Hmm...lots of good info. At first I really liked the arc midi but lately I'm leaning towards the define because of the looks. 30mm sounds like enough for a single set of fans, or a rad with no fans, which wouldn't be any good. A single 120mm rad in the back might be enough for the cpu if I can put a 240mm in the bottom.

I need some of the hard drive bays, the plan was to only remove the bottom half. I'm planning on 2-4 hard drives and 1 or 2 SSDs...along with a fan controller and a disk drive.

Can I fit a 240 into the bottom of a Define mini? If I can do that, I might go with the smaller case and put a 120mm in the back for the cpu.

Futzy, those specs are similar to what I want to do. So far Ivy isn't looking much better than Sandy, so right now I think I going with a 2600K or 2700K, depending on price. And if I go mATX, the Assu P8Z77 one..I forget the actual name.

From reviews I've read, the stock fractal fans aren't too bad, but you can certainly do better. I plan on replacing the,.
Edited by MME1122 - 4/15/12 at 11:55am
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The top HDD/SDD drive chassis is removable in the Arc series. You'll have to remove rivets to pull the bottom one. neither are (easily) removable in an R3. This is what it looks like with the top one removed (in an Arc Mini):


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I also like to swap the stock fans im in doubt with which the 140mm noiseblockers or the new revealed fractal silent series R2 with hydro bearings http://www.fractal-design.com/?view=product&category=4&prod=19

I'm excited about these, but waiting for reviews as usual. biggrin.gif
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The top HDD/SDD drive chassis is removable in the Arc series. You'll have to remove rivets to pull the bottom one. neither are (easily) removable in an R3. This is what it looks like with the top one removed (in an Arc Mini):

You can do this on a Core 3000 too ! thumb.gif
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You can do this on a Core 3000 too ! thumb.gif


Yes...and in both the Define XL and the Define Mini...but not the R3. I have never understand that decision. Makes me think that an R4 is long overdue. If a future R4 had a removable top cage and was just a bit wider to provide more space behind the MB, it would be fairly awesome. smile.gif
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Yes...and in both the Define XL and the Define Mini...but not the R3. I have never understand that decision. Makes me think that an R4 is long overdue. If a future R4 had a removable top cage and was just a bit wider to provide more space behind the MB, it would be fairly awesome. smile.gif

you can just repaint the arc midi and put foam on the panels)
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