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I would dust every couple months if I had a system tucked away like that. wink.gif
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post #2472 of 16284
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I would dust every couple months if I had a system tucked away like that. wink.gif

To be honest......i'm lucky if it's 2-3 times a year. I know.......redface.gif

Another thing i've learned thru time is keep the dang case off and no where near the floor.
Every case i've got, is mounted 4-5 feet above ground surface. Once I do get around to blowing
out the enterior......I truly get a very minimal amount of dust. It kills me when I see nice stuff like
we got sitting on carpet
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post #2473 of 16284
Me too. I learned very quickly when my first build was a few inches off the floor how bad an idea that was, lol. My current system is 3-4 feet off the ground. biggrin.gif
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post #2474 of 16284
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Originally Posted by adridu59 View Post

Removing the stock filter has two interests : allowing for more airflow (the stock "foam" filter reduces airflow by 50-60% if not more...) and looks. biggrin.gif
I think (partially) cutting the frame + cutting holes in front of fan blades would look really good while staying clean.
not worth it for a couple degree difference and doubtful aesthetics if you're lazy enough to clean the case at least once a month.
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post #2475 of 16284
I haven't had my build three weeks and I already have very noticeable dust circles on front and top mesh. I also just installed all prolimatech case fans and put both noctua fans on my cpu cooler. The inside of my case was already surprisingly dusty. I'm definitely going to invest in one of those dusters.

I have two questions. Is there a way to set the rear exhaust fan to never turn off unless power source is killed? I would like to keep it on even when the computer is asleep if that's possible. Also, would you all recommend a humidifier for my room to cut down on the dust? The computer is in the bonus room which also happens to be the dustiest room in the house. It won't move from the bonus room and I was wanting to know of ways to cut down on dust.
post #2476 of 16284
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I haven't had my build three weeks and I already have very noticeable dust circles on front and top mesh. I also just installed all prolimatech case fans and put both noctua fans on my cpu cooler. The inside of my case was already surprisingly dusty. I'm definitely going to invest in one of those dusters.
I have two questions. Is there a way to set the rear exhaust fan to never turn off unless power source is killed? I would like to keep it on even when the computer is asleep if that's possible. Also, would you all recommend a humidifier for my room to cut down on the dust? The computer is in the bonus room which also happens to be the dustiest room in the house. It won't move from the bonus room and I was wanting to know of ways to cut down on dust.

Leaving the rear exhaust fan on will only pull in more dust from every opening in the case. Humidity is not good for electronics. Get the dust filters and consider a more positive flow airflow pattern. See the item in my sig for more info. thumb.gif
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Leaving the rear exhaust fan on will only pull in more dust from every opening in the case. Humidity is not good for electronics. Get the dust filters and consider a more positive flow airflow pattern. See the item in my sig for more info. thumb.gif

Ah yes, I didn't even think about that. That would create negative pressure inside the case wouldn't it? Ah well, guess I won't do that then.

I have all stock filters on and four intake/ one exhaust fan at the moment. I don't think it would be necessary to install additional filters on top of the stock ones to the intakes, would it?
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Ah yes, I didn't even think about that. That would create negative pressure inside the case wouldn't it? Ah well, guess I won't do that then.
I have all stock filters on and four intake/ one exhaust fan at the moment. I don't think it would be necessary to install additional filters on top of the stock ones to the intakes, would it?

One exhaust running would create negative pressure. thumb.gif Replacing the stock filters with different ones may help a bit but more importantly every intake fan should be filtered. Managing the right amount of airflow (CFM) of each fan is also important. Here's a really good summary on DemciFlex website: clicky. biggrin.gif
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I've been looking around, trying to find any "real" data, which provides numbers
for filter -vs- no filter = finding nothing
Where exactly, did you extract that 50-60% number ?
Using my Fractal Minis dual front 120 setup as an example. The filters are
located at the backside of the direction of the 2 fans. Incoming air is filtered
before it touches the fans path. Are in fact, my Noctua fans are being supplied
sufficient volumes of air based on the fans specification ? Is indeed the fans
losing any cooling abilities due to the filter ? Being that my idle temps are
pretty much static at 29-30 C , i'd tend to believe the filter is causing a neglible
amount of loss. So in fact, for incoming air......it's possible there is no loss at all
based on the fans position & the spec of the fan itself ???.

What worries me about no filter, is the fact that dust kills sensitive electronics.
Plus, it's a fact.....dusty componets run hotter = def NOT good.
So wouldn't the benifit of moving more air, be negated by the fact
you're allowing dangerous (electronic killing) dust and dirt inside ?


While I generally agree that the filters are a good thing, I would guess that the quoted figure is not far off....based on being a firefighter for a dozen years...where the conventional wisdom is that a window screen will reduce airflow by approximately 50% during powered ventilation. My quick google search found this thread:

http://www.firehouse.com/forums/t101239/

I'm too lazy to find the real source. smile.gif

Of course, the number goes higher as the screen (or filter) becomes clogged with matter....and the type of filter also matters of course.
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Ah yes, I didn't even think about that. That would create negative pressure inside the case wouldn't it? Ah well, guess I won't do that then.
I have all stock filters on and four intake/ one exhaust fan at the moment. I don't think it would be necessary to install additional filters on top of the stock ones to the intakes, would it?


I like to have more air coming in than out...so I can ensure that I control where the air is coming in - i.e., through my intake fans and through their filters....not getting sucked in through every crack and opening,

I also pulled my rear fan. It can actually get in the way of the CPU exhaust airflow and potentially increase CPU temps as opposed to just an open hole. I believe it is due to the fact that most case fans aren't ramping up at the same RPM as the CPU fan...and the CPU cooler fan then has to push its air through a lower RPM case exhaust fan. There is actually a great thread in the air cooling forums with hard temp data for various test setups with a range of different fans for the Hyper 212 CPU cooler...and the result is clear for that cooler at least: no rear fan = lower CPU temps. Of course, everyone's setup is different...so there is no substitute for running your own test with your specific rig.
Edited by Scuba Steve in VA - 5/16/12 at 8:54pm
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