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(for reference i like to keep the temperatures below 60° with ambient 30°)
with no modding, the 280 rad will be hard to fit in the roof. the optibay is in the way, the thickness
will lend to interference on the motherboard (no offset). with that said, the roof riddled with mesh
allows some shifting to accomodate but depending on mobo selection there maybe tolerance issues
still. without a total remake or make-over of the roof the 280 rad is a tough cookie for clearence
of mobo, mostly.
i like the 280 for both positions so you can use the same fan, but again the tanks on the rads are
the clearence problems. even the 420 gets really tight fast with no optibays.
thickness... hummm thats a hard-one to field. i prefer the 60mm, fall-back to 45mm. in my experience
the 60mm alpha, HW-SR1, are the best for performance and low speed (sub1200rpm) rads.
XSPC doesnt have a RX280 just the EX and the fan speeds gotta be 1600+ to make them work.
if you are going for all that, i'd move to the 360 (my trend) with a lil roof modding and use the 280
for the front intake for a massive overclock and SLI/X-fire support. a fall-back to 240 roof and 280
front intake can still handle a hard CPU overclock and moderate to stock GPU clocking.
hope this doesnt muddy the water, too much!
airdeano

No man, I appreciate the in-depth info. It'll be a lil bit before I can afford to do this but eventually I'll be planning to upgrade to my "Next Upgrade" build in my sig. I debated between an i7 3820 and an i5 3570K for a lil while but with some of Intel's future plans now in the open I think I'll choose X79 with the budget proc and then I can upgrade that later. I don't upgrade my comp nearly as frequently as I used to so I gotta plan these upgrades out a bit better when I can do them. So I've been tentatively planning on the i7 3820 with the Apogee Drive II cpu block and 35X pump combo, a cylinder res, and probably the 120.2 UT60 up top. I don't particularly want to mod my case a whole lot and I still use an optical drive (I know, old fashioned) but it's nice to know that in the future I can do that. I'll keep my SLI GTX 470s on air for a while yet (putting them under water is still super expensive), I'll eventually upgrade to one GTX 680 or maybe even the 7XX series later on and put that under water. I don't game on my computer as much as I used to, unfortunately. What it really boils down to is when I can upgrade and how quickly I can get those upgrades under water, key issue being funds.

It may be a bit silly to think about all this stuff this far in advance but it's a pretty large expenditure and I really like doing my research beforehand (way beforehand?). That way when I take the plunge I'm much more confident and informed.

BTW, I also have some Bgears B-Blaster 140s and they are truly awesome. I bought them with the intention of using them with rads later on. Great fans, if a tad noisy at full blast. Partly my fault, I need to go in there some time and isolate them a bit better. Thanks again for the advice man!
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Now Where would you put the Fans?? the Radiator would fit with long enough tubbing, but there is no space for fans to be mounted without relocating the Drive Cages(more modding). If a case need serious Modding to Custom WC it is not a "great" WC case,rolleyes.gif a "great" WC case is something like Midi that don't need tools heavy modding to fit thick radiator+fans inside.

Bottom line is a 240 and at least 2, 120mm rads can fit inside with no modifications whatsoever. Any case that can fit that much is a good WC case, in my opinion of course. For the average user that should be plenty of rad cooling. If you need more, you're probably looking into full sized towers to fit it all, or you're just gonna end up modding your current case anyway, and that's a whole other ballgame because the possibilities are endless haha.

Fractal did a great job designing both cases and they're equally awesome in my book. smile.gif
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Ughhh is anyone else waiting for this awesome Fractal fan controller like I am?!?!? It would look so perfect on my case. It was announced soooo long ago.. and I know how long it can take for Fractal to have an announced product available in the US... siighhh
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Is it possible to mount Antec Kuhler 620 to the front in Arc Midi, with cable ties or somehow else? I sure wish Arc wouldn't have those stupid plastic clips that only fit 140mm fans.
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Is it possible to mount Antec Kuhler 620 to the front in Arc Midi, with cable ties or somehow else? I sure wish Arc wouldn't have those stupid plastic clips that only fit 140mm fans.
With zip ties- easily, the question is what for when there are four spare places in the cases specifically for that.
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With zip ties- easily, the question is what for when there are four spare places in the cases specifically for that.
I've heard that you getter temps when Kuhler 620 is installed as intake, it gets cool air from outside rather than already hot air from inside case. Also currently I can't install my Gentle Typhoon fans in push/pull to Kuhler because then side panel that has 180mm Air Penetrator fan doesn't fit anymore. In front the cooler wouldn't block the side fan.
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Has anyone with an Arc Mini replaced the stock Fractal Design fans and achieved any actual or notable temperature drops? Non water cooling, as I'm sure a better static pressure fan would help the rad heads.

Just curious!
     
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Has anyone with an Arc Mini replaced the stock Fractal Design fans and achieved any actual or notable temperature drops? Non water cooling, as I'm sure a better static pressure fan would help the rad heads.
Just curious!

---- these are BGears with white painted fan blades

i have. i replaced the front OE fractals (late-model cases have R2) with BGears B-Blaster
140mm fans. @ 12volts they are wind noisey. undervolt to 7volt and they are quiet. if you
have a blower style GPU with a reference design cooler, a floor fan works well to feed the
GPU. one of the fractals there will be fine. if you have an aftermarket style cooler on the
GPU, the side fan really helps, but there is no filter to aid in keeping the case clean inside.
a Deci 140 or silverstone 140 filter works well, but the fan needs some static pressure to
overcome the flow detereration. for the roof the fans can be tricky. depending on HSF used,
you want to be careful not to get a too powerful fan to steal the needed air for the HSF.
that'll have to be install, test and retest work.

airdeano
Edited by airdeano - 10/9/12 at 9:37pm
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how long does it take for customer support to reply to email? im needing some support
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Anyone know when the Adjust 108 fan controller is coming out? I cannot find it AYWHERE
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