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Originally Posted by Hasdrubal View Post

I'm using the Arc Midi, which shares most of its internal with the R4, and run hte same configuration of fan as you intend to. My setup is (with 4 fan channels)
- 2 front intake fans (Thermalright TY-147) on a single fan controller header
- 1 bottom intake fan (Thermalright X-Silent 140, to be replaced by another TY-147) on a separate fan controller header
- 1 top/back exhaust fan (Phobya G-silent 18) on a separate fan controller header
- 1 back exhaust fan (Thermalright X-Silent 140, to be replaced by another TY-147) on a separate fan controller header
If I were you, I would run the 3 intake fans from the R4 controller, let let the mobo rake care of heat exhaust.
Hope this helps!

Thank you so much for this really detailed response. I think that is exactly how I will do it - intake on controller and exhaust/cpu cooler on mobo.

I see you listed your fans and are running lots of Thermalrights. I actually just finished an excel spreadsheet comparison of 140mm fans biggrin.gif

I have compared the following:
-Fractal R2 (case stock fans)
-Corsair AF140 Quiet Edition
-Aerocool Shark Black
-Thermalright X-Silent
-Scythe Kaze Maru 2 Slipstream
-Noiseblocker BlackSilent PK-2
-BeQuiet USC

When comparing these models, the stock R2s aren't actually that bad. They are all pretty good. Those Aerocool Sharks would be pretty good for the front intake. They have the highest rpm at 12v compared to the others but they have significantly higher airflow/pressure at that speed. Even at low 7v they are impressive due to the 15 fan blades. And if I run intake on controller and turn them up for gaming, well noise wouldn't be too much of an issue considering that's the time when the system is going to be loudest (i.e., gpu). Also the BeQuiet is a great company, great service, long warrant, and reputable. It's so hard to choose!

I see you have the X-Silents and are going for the TY-147. My only concern with the circular Thermalright 140mm fans (w/120mm fittings) is if they would actually fit alright in the R4. I am assuming they do now if you use them in the Arc Midi.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?p=22957204#post22957204
picture in post 254
-Looks like 2x TY-141s don't fit in front intake (unless modified). So could put the two stock R2s in the front then three TY-140s (bottom, back, top/back).
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Update on my build

More on that
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I was only thinking about something like furniture feet cups. That's a real nice mod. biggrin.gif
Thanks for the tip. I will keep my eyes open for a solution to raising the case.
Hadn't thought of using furniture feet cups. How much would they raise it?

You could use the bolt on casters and mount them directly to case. wink.gif
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I was only thinking about something like furniture feet cups. That's a real nice mod. biggrin.gif
Thanks for the tip. I will keep my eyes open for a solution to raising the case.
Hadn't thought of using furniture feet cups. How much would they raise it?

You could use the bolt on casters and mount them directly to case. wink.gif

There are a lot of styles of "rollers". Industrial, self cleaning, roller style. The smallest I have used were about 1" lift.

EDIT: What type of substrate? I relooked at omniball which are 21mm tall, but the "wheel" is pretty small.
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Finally removed the bottom hard drive cage!


Edited by ZeVo - 12/23/12 at 11:10am
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-Looks like 2x TY-141s don't fit in front intake (unless modified). So could put the two stock R2s in the front then three TY-140s (bottom, back, top/back).

Wish you had a TY-140 series to test and compare to your other fans.

If you have access to a good miter saw with a good finish blade or a table saw modding TY-140 series is a cakewalk. I trimmed of about.2-.3mm too much.. That's why the full width cream color shows. frown.gif
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There are a lot of styles of "rollers". Industrial, self cleaning, roller style. The smallest I have used were about 1" lift.
For 2 140mm bottom fans you need approx 2"; That give fans similar airflow area as their face area is. I can hear the difference in noise between stock feet and 50mm. wink.gif
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Hadn't thought of using furniture feet cups. How much would they raise it?

Definitely not as high as wheel casters. Would you have to drill new holes into the bottom of the hole to fit them? Or what if you just got some longer rubber feet? I can't tell if the existing R4 rubber feet are screwed in or actually glued into the entire feet mount (I don't own the case, yet!).



If they are just screwed in then I could find replacement rubber feet no problem. I suppose though you could always just superglue them together biggrin.gif
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Wish you had a TY-140 series to test and compare to your other fans.
If you have access to a good miter saw with a good finish blade or a table saw modding TY-140 series is a cakewalk. ]

I am actually considering this. I really want the TY-147s. Not only do I get the Thermalright 140mm fan performance, but the 147 comes in black/white to match the stock R4 fans. I am assuming the whole entire TY-140 series has identical casing plastic, so if you successfully trimmed thst 141 (did you spray paint it black?), then I should be able to square up the 147.

Do you think the TY-140 series is as good as or better than the others I listed? They are all fairly comperable I suppose. It sorta comes down to availability and pricing at this stage.
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Pretty sure R4 feet are screed on from the bottom. If you like it setting on feet you could make some spacers out of wood to go between feet and case and put them on with longer screws.

I think the new TY-140 series fans are made of same or very similar plastic so should cut no problem. Right now I can get TY-147 for £5.99 pre-order special.
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Pretty sure R4 feet are screed on from the bottom. If you like it setting on feet you could make some spacers out of wood to go between feet and case and put them on with longer screws.

Another great idea! Cheers!
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