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Appearance-wise, I've really liked the Xigmatek Dark Knight with Corsair SP120 fans that someone posted... love the flat black.

Also wonder how the new 120mm Phanteks PH-TC12DX would do with those SP120s on it, although the stock fans are reasonably good-looking.

The Phanteks PH-TC14PE looks and performs great, too.
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Zalman CNPS12x - looks awesome and performs better than Noctua's big cooler. Someday I'll have a motherboard big enough to accommodate it.



I'm stuck with my mini ITX for a while (moving from a Prodigy build). Will look tiny in my incoming Define R4!
   
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Appearance-wise, I've really liked the Xigmatek Dark Knight with Corsair SP120 fans that someone posted... love the flat black.

Also wonder how the new 120mm Phanteks PH-TC12DX would do with those SP120s on it, although the stock fans are reasonably good-looking.

The Phanteks PH-TC14PE looks and performs great, too.

That black Phanteks with a white ringed SP120 would look so dope! Forgot all about that cooler..
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Zalman CNPS12x - looks awesome and performs better than Noctua's big cooler.

That is highly debatable. In fact, as I recall the first major review of the CNPS12x showed fairly mediocre performance and abysmal performance on high overclocks. I have not heard of any revisions to the unit in question so I'm curious to see what leads you to the conclusion that it competes better than the D14.
    
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does the r4 window case have good airflow my build is

h80
asus p8z77 v lk
gtx 670 msi pe
ax 750w psu modular
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planning to overclock and dont want bad airflow
post #6166 of 16063
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

Scan has TY-147 black/white fans on for £5.87 For front fans you will need to mod the by cutting them square. They work very well and fit everywhere else.

The square mod is done by clamping fan on a good miter saw with good carbide blade or on sliding fixture on a table saw and cut just to the inner circle of housing. Could do it with a belt sander too I suppose.. but be very careful about melting plastic.. Done properly you can clip the fan into the R4 front on newly cut sides.

If I can find a place with those prices but that ships to the US, I'm sold. Scan doesn't seem to venture outside of the UK. Shopping around now.

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does the r4 window case have good airflow my build is

h80
asus p8z77 v lk
gtx 670 msi pe
ax 750w psu modular
ocz ssd 2tb hd
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planning to overclock and dont want bad airflow

The R4 is one of the most versatile cases out there for airflow. You can set it up in a lot of ways. I'd really like to experiment with a few different fan setups (side-intakes-to-rear-exhaust with and without front fans, top-front and bottom intakes with rear and side exhaust, etc.), but that requires both more fans and work to give me a break long enough to set up a good test station.


S@wyer, what RAM did you get? The Samsung stuff is both awesome and extremely low profile; it actually sits a shade lower than the locking tabs that keep it in place, so it might give you more tower heatsink flexibility.
    
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That is highly debatable. In fact, as I recall the first major review of the CNPS12x showed fairly mediocre performance and abysmal performance on high overclocks. I have not heard of any revisions to the unit in question so I'm curious to see what leads you to the conclusion that it competes better than the D14.

Been a while since I researched that! Looking now, here's what I'm finding, just going by reviews pulled up through TechPowerUp review database:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/zalman-cnps12x_5.html#sect0

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Guru3D:
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/zalman_cnps_12x_review,8.html
(2C better than Noctua D14 here, equal to C14)

Hardware Secrets:
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Zalman-CNPS12X-CPU-Cooler-Review/1434/6
(worse than C14, better than D14)

FrostyTech: ~1-2 degrees warmer than Noctua but quieter.
http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2620&page=4

Plus a major win in the badass look of CNPS12x biggrin.gif
Edited by ElevenEleven - 2/11/13 at 7:04pm
   
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S@wyer, what RAM did you get? The Samsung stuff is both awesome and extremely low profile; it actually sits a shade lower than the locking tabs that keep it in place, so it might give you more tower heatsink flexibility.

I'm sticking with my 16GB (4x 4GB) of Corsair Vengeance.
I just ordered a set of black aluminium low-profile heat spreaders.

I plan to removed the stock spreaders and throw on the generic black ones
If that doesn't work, I can always grab some Vengeance LP or Dominator (removing the top part of the stock heat sinks)
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Been a while since I researched that! Looking now, here's what I'm finding, just going by reviews pulled up through TechPowerUp review database:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/zalman-cnps12x_5.html#sect0

zchart_diagr_big.png&width=500&height=617&cache=1&quality=100&aspect=0&format=

Guru3D:
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/zalman_cnps_12x_review,8.html
(2C better than Noctua D14 here, equal to C14)

Hardware Secrets:
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Zalman-CNPS12X-CPU-Cooler-Review/1434/6
(worse than C14, better than D14)

FrostyTech: ~1-2 degrees warmer than Noctua but quieter.
http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2620&page=4

Plus a major win in the badass look of CNPS12x biggrin.gif

i just cant figure out why no one is ever recommending the zalman over anything else in regards to air cooling. most of the consensus on the interweb is that the noctua D14 out performs ALL heatsinks and in some cases, the famed H100. every test i have seen has been noctua on top and everything below it , meaning higher temps by a couple degrees.
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Noctua heatsinks are very good. No doubt about it. This has nothing to do with recommendations though--just pure reviews and comparison tables, which I personally use to help me form a preliminary opinion. (I usually do entirely too much preliminary reading before buying stuff, and at some point I was looking at heatsinks... which is how I happened upon Zalman's CNPS12x).

Zalman stuff is very "proprietary"--like you can't just swap the fans out for something else. That said, I ordered an extra fan from them for my CNPS9900Max (wanted to test something), and it was on the order of ~$5 including shipping, and customer service replies were pretty quick, so no problems with that at least.

CNPS12x was on a ~$45 sale after rebate recently too, so it can be had for a very reasonable price. I used to use Hyper 212+ for my machines, but after I swapped to windowed cases (modded and not), I just couldn't stand the generic look of it anymore. Since there was a discussion here about cool looking heatsinks that perform well, I had to bring up CNPS12x. As much as I love Noctua, if temperatures are going to be that similar, I'd rather have that in my case than D14.
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