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So should I just move my bottom intake fan to the rear?

    
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I would add fans. 2 140mm intake at the front, no middle drive cage, and the rest as suggested.
   
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Does anyone know what kind of bulb is used for the power led in the define r3? I would like to change it to a white one. Also how difficult is it to mod it?
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Originally Posted by ElevenEleven View Post

I would add fans. 2 140mm intake at the front, no middle drive cage, and the rest as suggested.

But for the fans I have right now, one front intake and one rear exhaust? I also feel a lot of air exhausting the back of my card, in front of the front intake. Should I use the front as an exhaust instead?

 

So two options:

 

1 front in, 1 rear ex

1 front ex, 1 bottom intake

 

How many fans should I buy? I'll try to get order them in 2 weeks. Should I populate all the fan slots or could I get away with just populating the 2 front and rear? Do I need a bottom fan too? Also I want to keep my side vents and top vents closed.

 

Thanks a lot.

 

Oh and what kinds of fans should I buy?

 

One more question. Will flipping the PSU fan to the top make a difference?


Edited by eBombzor - 2/17/13 at 9:54pm
    
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Well, 2 intake fans at the front and one exhaust at the rear are a good start, as is completely taking out the middle drive cage. From there, experiment with additional fans. As for flipping the PSU, it would mean running hot air through it to cool the PSU, which would lower efficiency somewhat. I'm not sure if it would reduce its lifespan, but it could potentially speed up its own cooling fan, depending on if its programmed to respond to higher temperatures as well as loads.

As for which fans to choose, there are lots of options. Unsure what your price range would be. I have actually yet to try the stock fans that came with my R4, as I had better ones, and according to some reports, the FD fans could be improved upon. I might hook one up to a fan controller tomorrow to test.
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Well, 2 intake fans at the front and one exhaust at the rear are a good start, as is completely taking out the middle drive cage. From there, experiment with additional fans. As for flipping the PSU, it would mean running hot air through it to cool the PSU, which would lower efficiency somewhat. I'm not sure if it would reduce its lifespan, but it could potentially speed up its own cooling fan, depending on if its programmed to respond to higher temperatures as well as loads.

As for which fans to choose, there are lots of options. Unsure what your price range would be.

I want 2 more fans. I'll keep the stock fans for the intake at the front. So the 2 others will go on the bottom and rear. I have $25 for both.

 

I'm going to try to use the front intake as an exhaust and see if I get better performance.

 

Are you sure removing the HDD cage will be better? The manual from the R4 says that if you rotate the cage, air will be guided to the GPU. And the rotated cage is pretty free and unrestrictive.

 

I'm also going to try no front intake, on bottom intake, and one rear exhaust. The GPU is exhausting against the front so I don't think the front is helping much, and I don't think using the front as an exhaust is a good idea in this case.


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Where is the air going to come from If you also exhaust from the front? Unfiltered rear grille and PCI-E covers? Bad idea, not to mention the odd paths this will create.

What is the point of the empty drive cage being left inside? It will obstruct air flow and create turbulence simply by sitting in front of the front fans vs an empty space.
   
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Well I was thinking I could use the bottom as an intake and the rear as an exhaust, ignoring the front.

 

TBH, I don't know anywhere to put the cage outside of the case lol.

 

This doesn't seem that restrictive tho.

    
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That's just logic based on my Physics and Astronomy degrees. But! I'd encourage you to experiment anyway and find the best set up that works for you. And it will provide you with intuition for future adventures with balancing airflow, temperatures, and noise.
   
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It may also be worth looking in to removing both cages altogether. Just looking at the pics you posted there would be nothing stopping you from relocating both drives to different spots and improving air flow even further.
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