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post #6411 of 16139
Hi Guys,

I am currently looking to build a new PC. My old macbook pro laptop is still great, however it doesn't have the power or compatibility to do what I need. I'm also looking to check out the new windows 8 operating system and I actually do quite like it.

One of the reasons for the switch is because I enjoy pc gaming, I am not a hardcore gamer and that's all I do, I will sit down and play games on my nights off or when it's pouring rain and there isn't heaps to do. I play many games from the past ( age of empires, Patrician, The Settlers, Dawn Of War, Old Grand Theft auto games and I also like to play newer titles like Battlefield 3, Assassins creed & The Witcher. I also like my sport games too.

i love the idea of building my own PC, however I don't consider myself to be an extreme enthusiast and I'm looking to build a solid Ivy bridge rig. I also do some video editing on this PC for personal not for professional use. I am aware of HAswell around the corner and after reading the benchmarks, I am deciding to to build on ivy.

I was originally going to buy a brand new iMac although, I have built systems before but never with these sort of capabilities. I'm thinking right now, get a Fractal Design R4, Throw in a Gigabyte Ga-z77-ud3h, 670, a good sound card, blu ray player, a h60 SE and 16 gb of Ram and get a solid system running. I'm not into big gaming cases or flashy boxes that light up. That's why this case appealed to me. I just want to build a reasonably sized powerful ivy system with enough power to kick the current games asses.

I use a dual monitor setup, but only because it's more productive for me. So Obviously I'm still gaming on a single monitor.

Would you guys reccommend an R4 for the uses I've suggested above and how big is this case? Because I had the corsair 600t and it was simply put way, way too big.

Cheers
post #6412 of 16139
Well, I'm a fan of customizing cases and such, and my previous build was in a Bitfenix Prodigy, which was small and fun. I initially thought Define R4 would be "boring" and had plans for it, but when my white one arrived, I tossed all those plans aside and so far I've been very happy with it as is. If you arrange your components and fans thoughtfully, it will be a very quiet and cool system. It's roomy inside, everything is very well-made, and I think it looks very classy. It's definitely not as big as 600t by far. I have not owned a 600t, but I've seen it at my local Microcenter. 600t is basically a full tower in an egg-shaped design. Define R4 larger than cheap low-end mid-tower cases, but it's not huge. It's just right, I think. You should get a measuring tape and estimate how large it would be under your desk, looking at specifications. That should give you a good idea.
   
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post #6413 of 16139
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Originally Posted by NoGuru View Post

Just bought the XL R2. Should be here in about a week.

Lucky!

I'm dyin' to get one, but waiting for my budget to catch up.

Newest review here:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6764/fractal-design-define-xl-r2-case-review-maybe-we-can-have-it-all

It did extremely well...
post #6414 of 16139
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You can use multi-quote function to quote multiple people in the same post. There's also an Edit button to combine multiple thoughts into the same post biggrin.gif
i'm not so sure how to do those stuff.frown.gif i'm using cellphone everytime i post and i dunno how to do those stuff to be honest.
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post #6415 of 16139
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i'm not so sure how to do those stuff.frown.gif i'm using cellphone everytime i post and i dunno how to do those stuff to be honest.

Instead of tapping on "reply" or "quote", tap on "multi" for each post you want to quote. Then at the end, tap on "reply", and all of the posts you're quoting will appear. Also, next to each of your posts is an "Edit" button (at the bottom of each). Tap that to edit and then save.
   
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Instead of tapping on "reply" or "quote", tap on "multi" for each post you want to quote. Then at the end, tap on "reply", and all of the posts you're quoting will appear. Also, next to each of your posts is an "Edit" button (at the bottom of each). Tap that to edit and then save.
thank you. but i guess that multi button isn't supported in my phone, so i guess i gotta post stuff on my pc next time.
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post #6417 of 16139
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thank you. but i guess that multi button isn't supported in my phone, so i guess i gotta post stuff on my pc next time.

It might appear as if nothing happens when you press "multi". But it remembers what you've selected. When you do press "reply", it will copy all of the things you hit "multi" for and paste them into your reply.
   
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post #6418 of 16139
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thank you. but i guess that multi button isn't supported in my phone, so i guess i gotta post stuff on my pc next time.
I got the iPhone 4S and have the button. Where it has the quotation marks (") click on one of the posts, then another to multi quote.
post #6419 of 16139
New hardware installed in my R4

1307013

...more fotos and small plans about modding
http://www.overclock.net/t/1273640/official-rog-maximus-v-owners-club/2080_20#post_19353713

...more and more fotos with review on russian
http://forums.overclockers.ru/viewtopic.php?p=10596774#p10596774
post #6420 of 16139
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This looks incredible! Fantastic loop! (and very clean) thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by K4IKEN View Post

One of the only times where I actually like a shroud. It looks great mane. thumb.gif

Thanks! I really wanted a 120.3 rad in this Mini, and could only see it being possible to integrate it with my other needs by roof mounting it. Unfortunately that would have only left 1/2" of clearance between the bottom of the front radiator fan and the top of the installed 5.25" bay device. I did a lot of research on this site and all over the internet and found that the minimum recommended intake area was the size of the fan itself, so I had to "find" another 1/2" somewhere. I couldn't agree more that shrouds typically clash with the theme of a case and detract from the overall looks and asthetics, which is why I worked so hard to make one that matched Fractal's existing theme on the Mini as closely as I could. biggrin.gif
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I first I thought that you were cooling a CPU and GPU with a 120.2 rad alone... then I saw the second pic and realized you're using a 120.3. When you finish your loop be sure to post temps!

Unfortunately, the temps right now aren't really all that amazing. Honestly, I'm going the water route more for the silence than anything else. I've got all the fans set to run at 5v permanently to be as quiet as possible. The MCP-35x pump is set to ramp between 20% and 50% with the motherboard PWM based on CPU temp. As the loop is more or less finished for the time being (will be a while before I get the funds to expand it further), here's the requested temps after 15min of FurMark and a full "High" run (5min) of IBT:


The HD6850 is OC'd to 875MHz on the core, and 1150MHz on the GDDR, with no overvoltage at all. The i5-3750k has a mild OC of 4.2GHz with the voltage running in offset mode using an offset of +0.035v. I think I've got a bum 3750k, as it from the research I've done, mine seems to need far more voltage to be stable than it should at various clock speeds. I'll likely delid it in the future if the temps ever prove to be a problem.
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