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post #731 of 15981
Hi there Fractal Design fans
After much deliberation I decided on the Arc Midi and I'm so glad I did. I'm incredibly impressed by how much better it is at cooling than my previous cheap generic case. When I bought the previous case I didn't understand the need for proper gaming cases but when my GPU was hitting 80 at idle and 90 when playing games I decided I needed to look into it to have a healthier system.

This is a speedfan readout for my previous case at idle:


This is the Arc Midi at idle:


(I say idle for that last one but it's actually 5 minutes after a crash and reboot after playing Deus Ex: HR for 8 hours)

The temps while playing games don't even hit the idle temps of the previous case so I am one happy bunny

I have some questions for other owners. I had problems with the screws on the HDD bays scraping on the top of the HDD underneath. Also for the bottom HDD cage the screws holding the plastic bit on top are so long they hit any HDD I put in the top bay. Does anyone else have these problems or have I assembled something wrong?

I don't have any inside shots of my rig but here it is under the desk while in use, can I join the club? I promise an inside shot the moment I can get my fiance off Deus Ex

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From the mobo panel to side is ~23mm as you have take into account the sound proofing material.
Thanks for the reply, seems like there is plenty of room for cables. +rep for you
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Mousie_Grr you aren't the only one with the hdd cage plastic rail screws scrapping the hdds. Because of that I removed the plastic rails. I wasn't going to use the top cage anyway. Another flaw on the some Arc Midis is the expansion slots screw holes not lining up properly with cards. Also the flimsy mess grills.

I love the Arc Midi and Fractal Design Cases. But I think we should contact Fractal Design about these issues.
    
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Jeff, thanks for response. My answers to your questions are below.

I keep weebeling between the two cases, but the swings are becoming less dramatic. Part of doubt has to do with not being sure about exactly how I'm going to use this build. This will be my fourth or fifth build, but really the first where I've got the ability to build the machine that I want rather than being heavily constrained by outside or artificial influences. I can't afford to go crazy or make any really bad decisions (another part of my doubt), but as long as I take it easy I'll wind up with a nice machine.

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Hey welcome to Overclocker.net's forum Dan.
I read your post and have a few questions to ask you,
1. Are you building this as a gaming computer or some other needs?
It will probably be mostly "other needs". I have need for a fair amount of storage for pictures and video (right now I'm pushing 4 gb.) That's compounded by the desire to rip a relatively healthy DVD collection to ultimately go on some sort of NAS. For work and pleasure, I also tend to keep a number of VM environments around.

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2. Do you wish to go water cooling or just air cooling?
I'm starting with air cooling, but have always wanted to try a water cooled machine.

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3. Do you think you will be upgrading your computer down the line? (expanding)
LOL, yes. There's certainly going to be additional storage. I really don't think I'm going to survive with on board video for that long, but I might, who knows. Sooner or later I'll probably wind up with a dedicated gpu. The real question is does that come before or after the SSD? Then there's that whole question about water cooling....

All that argues strongly for the XL. Particularly given that I have big hands and always wind up cussing a blue streak when working inside a mid-tower.

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4. Do you travel alot? (Lan partys, ect ect)
Given what these two cases weigh, empty, it wouldn't be good to be me if I did. Fortunately, I don't. I might be lucky if I can pull this thing out from under the desk to plug in another cable.

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If you are worried about CPU cooling and using up room in your 5.25 bays you could always get one of the Corsair Hydro series coolers.
I've thought about this. I don't know much about these things. Have you got the rad where the back exhaust fan goes or down in the "basement"?
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OK, so I did it. I'm the future owner (when Mr. UPS-man delivers it) of a Define XL. That case just had more things that I wanted. If I ultimately think I want a PC that I can have in the living room as a media center, I'll think about another case at the time (hopefully a Fractal Designs, I just like the way their stuff looks). For the time being, I'm content knowing that a very heavy box is going to be coming my way in the next few days.

I hope newegg has the sense to pack everything separately.
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post #736 of 15981
Finally tore into this thing.

Here's a link to the slideshow.

1. Cut fan grill from rear exhaust.
2. Cut fan grill from PSU intake.
3. Cut 6 HDD bays.

And yes, it definitely helped temps. Also worth noting that the included fan controller doesn't seem to spin my SFLEX' @ the full 1200RPM. They're definitely not pushing as much air as they do on a molex/mobo connector.
Edited by Jodiuh - 8/31/11 at 11:37pm
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Awesome before/after, Jodiuh. Did you happen to measure temps so we can have a before/after for those too?
    
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Does anyone know if Core 1000 can fit second 120mm fan in the front panel? it looks like it would to me with a minor modification, but maybe someone who owns it can confirm? also how is the metal quality?
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Here's my Arc Midi. Not done with it. Need some fittings and what not. Also, Will be mounting res tube attached to pump on the pci slot, as its mocked up in the picture.

Also need to make some brackets to push the bottom radiator forward a little bit so I can put the 2nd fan on there.
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Here's my Arc Midi. Not done with it. Need some fittings and what not. Also, Will be mounting res tube attached to pump on the pci slot, as its mocked up in the picture.
What's that 80mm (?) fan doing there resting on top of the video card?

Looks awesome though! Can the case fit a 120mm at the front bottom if you don't have the 240mm thin radiator there?
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