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A quick bit of research shows 4-pin PWM fans are designed to be compatible with 3-pin slots. Only downside to this is you lose PWM functionality and the fan runs at full speed 100% of the time - not really an issue with the Noctua A14 PWM as they are fairly quiet (I think).

Shame no-one makes a good 4-pin PWM 5.25" fan controller.
post #9012 of 16280
I'm surprised there are so few of pwm controllers too? Zalman makes some that support one 4pin pwm fan...
http://www.zalman.com/eng/product/Product_Read.php?Idx=376
http://www.zalman.com/eng/product/Product_Read.php?Idx=341
... with a controller like that and a pwm splitter like the swiftech splitter, you could control a bunch of pwm fans with a single knob.

You can plug a 4 pin fan into a 3 pin connector and it would be voltage regulated, but that could damage the pwm control logic built into the fan (its expecting 12v and will be getting less). If you plug a 3pin fan into a 4pin pwm connector, the fan will run at full speed since the 12v line will always be at 12v.
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A quick bit of research shows 4-pin PWM fans are designed to be compatible with 3-pin slots. Only downside to this is you lose PWM functionality and the fan runs at full speed 100% of the time - not really an issue with the Noctua A14 PWM as they are fairly quiet (I think).

Shame no-one makes a good 4-pin PWM 5.25" fan controller.
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A quick bit of research shows 4-pin PWM fans are designed to be compatible with 3-pin slots. Only downside to this is you lose PWM functionality and the fan runs at full speed 100% of the time - not really an issue with the Noctua A14 PWM as they are fairly quiet (I think).
Well personally i would run 3pin on voltage control headers or on 3pin fan controllers. Here is some test i did yesterday on FanXpert2 running the NF-A14 PWM on a CPU_FAN header (real pwm header), and on CHASSIS_FAN header (4pin in theory, but its voltage controlled), you can see the difference in the graphs and charts



Worth mentioning that the NF-A14 PWM is unstable on 3pin on the default setting on FanXpert2, it turn off after like 3mins of running after the testing/tunning, but this can be fixed by just bumping the graph some to avoid the stopping of the fan. On the PWM header is completely stable even at lower rpms.
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Shame no-one makes a good 4-pin PWM 5.25" fan controller.
PWM fans are meant to be controlled by the motherboard PWM signal, its like going opposite to needing a external fan controller and just using your motherboard software / bios to control them. Personally i love this, specially the ability for the setup to drop down the fans to their lowest rpm when cooling is not needed like browsing or just being in idle, and the ability to ramp itself when more heat needs to be dissipated by benching/OCing/gaming, etc. This is why im putting so much effort in this, trying to automate the cooling, still fanXpert2 will do that for you no matter the fan (well matters its characteristics like its range of operation), but for the reason i mentioned before ill be doing it on bios.
Edited by Abula - 8/26/13 at 7:32pm
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First review of the Arc Mini R2

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post #9015 of 16280
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3 pin fans are thing of the past when it comes to automatic fan control, but most motherboards have still very long way to go - from what I learned it is better to use 3rd party program (in my case speedfan - if controlling chip actually supports it) so you can set the speed of the fans individualy and based on temperature of many different components (gpu core, hdds, mobo, cpu core etc.). Not even asus sabertooth bios/utility allows you to do that and that is sad.

Anyway, I personally wouldnt buy a mobo that doesnt have at least 2 individually controlable 4pins (for example for define r4 I usually do 1x front, 1x rear fan + cpu fans on first 4pin controled by cpu temp and 1x bottom fan on 2nd 4pin that is controlled by gpu temp, if I have more 4pins to play (that are actually pwm and without stupid %duty restrictions) I make exhaust fan controlled by both cpu and gpu temp.
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Anyway, I personally wouldnt buy a mobo that doesnt have at least 2 individually controlable 4pins (for example for define r4 I usually do 1x front, 1x rear fan + cpu fans on first 4pin controled by cpu temp and 1x bottom fan on 2nd 4pin that is controlled by gpu temp, if I have more 4pins to play (that are actually pwm and without stupid %duty restrictions) I make exhaust fan controlled by both cpu and gpu temp.

If you know of any mb that does have two independently controlled pwm headers you should share the info! I don't know of any...
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Just about done. Just need to fill up the loop.

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If you know of any mb that does have two independently controlled pwm headers you should share the info! I don't know of any...

Asrock Fatality series
ASUS ROG series
.. most hi-end/gamers
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Asrock Fatality series
ASUS ROG series
.. most hi-end/gamers
Idk Asrock, but on ASUS ROG i have built some, although there are two CPU headers (CPU_FAN and CPU_OPT), only the CPU_FAN is controllable, the CPU_OPT is more like a Y spliter, convinient for people uisng twin tower coolers and entry lvl watercooling kits, or even higher end water, or in my case, for getting the rpms of two different fans although both are being controlled by the same pwm signal.
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The OPT_FAN headers are independently controllable, but you need a thermal probe put where you want to cool.
 
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