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It's a bit late, but I thought I'd wait till the 212 Evo was in. Here's my setup:


It's not obvious from the photo, but I have no fans installed in the top. I was thinking of getting 4 Noctua A14 PWMs and arranging them like this:


Any feedback/suggestions? I was worried this could be "too much" positive pressure.

Unless you are willing to do some fancy ducting, dont do an in-out at the top, its only going to circulate air
do either in-in or an out-out

of course if you have a big household fan flowing air over the top of the case, THEN you can do an in-out smile.gif
post #9042 of 16052
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Originally Posted by lugal View Post

It doesnt have to be "cpu fan" header, many boards have "chassis fan" headers that are also pwm controlled and not dependant on cpu header pwm signal. For example maximusVIx has eight 4pins, sabertooth has six pwm headers etc. (usually at least one is just splitter that is meant to be used for dual fan coolers as you mentioned).

Basically you have to look for higher end motherboards - and there is still chance that even 4 pin header will have only voltage control (doh.gif), it will be limited to xy% minimum duty or it will have crap software and controller chip that doesnt work with speedfan.
Sorry to disappoint but the Asus only have the cpu and clone cpu_opt as true pwm. Manuals are wrong. They are 4 pin but use voltage (confirmed by many pissed off Asus customers as well as Asus themselves). Only motherboard I have seen that have more than one pwm header that is independently controlled is asrock (cpu and cha_fan 1) and that's assuming they aren't lieing about it like Asus.....
Edited by gdubc - 8/28/13 at 7:15am
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How do you tell if they fans are being fed with true PWM signals?
post #9044 of 16052
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Originally Posted by RnRollie View Post


Unless you are willing to do some fancy ducting, dont do an in-out at the top, its only going to circulate air
do either in-in or an out-out

of course if you have a big household fan flowing air over the top of the case, THEN you can do an in-out smile.gif

The air wouldn't circulate inside the case because of the 212 Evo and above the case I was hoping convection and the force at which it was pushed out would get rid of the hot air before it got sucked back into the case.

I'd like the benefit of cool air directly into the cpu fan though, but wouldn't in-in be kind out pointless? The top rear fan wouldn't cool a thing.
post #9045 of 16052
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Yes.

I'm guessing you don't want the Midi's smoked window and ould rather be able to see through. That's understandable

Actually, I don't want a window at all.
 
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post #9046 of 16052
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The air wouldn't circulate inside the case because of the 212 Evo and above the case I was hoping convection and the force at which it was pushed out would get rid of the hot air before it got sucked back into the case.

I'd like the benefit of cool air directly into the cpu fan though, but wouldn't in-in be kind out pointless? The top rear fan wouldn't cool a thing.

convection force is barely enough to change the flightpath of a mozzie
force of air expelled by fan is low to start with, and the filters that FD uses are not helping
result: any air expelled from one fan would be sucked in again by the other

best set them both top to IN so you've got some flow over VRMs & RAM
the evo + the rear fan will make sure its going back out smile.gif
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I know these aren't Monstas but now you've got another reason to be jealous tongue.gif.






Waiting on the new GPUs too thumb.gif

Nice and clean thumb.gif
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convection force is barely enough to change the flightpath of a mozzie
force of air expelled by fan is low to start with, and the filters that FD uses are not helping
result: any air expelled from one fan would be sucked in again by the other

best set them both top to IN so you've got some flow over VRMs & RAM
the evo + the rear fan will make sure its going back out smile.gif

If that's the case I'll try switching the fans around - if the top rear is a fractal intake it'll have pretty low airflow through the filters. This would give the VRMs some cool air while not messing up the airflow of CPU->rear exhaust. It'd also mean the rear exhaust becomes a Noctua, which would have more airflow through the back grill.

I was going to experiment anyway but you've given me some ideas I wouldn't have thought of, so +rep for your troubles thumb.gif
post #9049 of 16052
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How do you tell if they fans are being fed with true PWM signals?
If you hook up a 3pin fan on a pwm header it will always get 12v and therefore run full speed. If you can change the speed it is voltage controlled.
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post #9050 of 16052
Hello everyone, just stopping by to show my new case.




Still have some work to do but its getting there. So far this case is amazing, very quiet, sleek and sexy. I will be needing some better fans though since the two stock and Cooler master fans I put in aren't cooling it enough for me.
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