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I am also in same boat as you. But i recently am leaning towards R4, it looks pretty nice smile.gif

An appealing feature of the Midi missing from the Define are the offset radiator mounts up top. The mesh grill panel over the top is pretty nice too, but that's just cosmetic. I'm interested in seeing what Abula finds in his parallel builds.
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post #9432 of 16056
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Seems like Fractal owner are prefering nocuta, i also have 7 noctua NF-A14 PWM to be mounted on the Acr Midi2 / Define R4 on the weekend.

Btw if you dont mind me asking, how low is the Gigabyte Bios allows to run the NF-A14 PWM? Im interested on knowing the minimum % the bios allows and the respective RPMs it displays.

Honestly I haven't had good luck with Gigabytes so called fan control. Their software that apparently always control over the fans never works on my PC, if I manage to download it all I get is an error message. Although in doing research on the subject EasyTune 6 is a joke anyway so I gave up on it.

If I go into bios and change the fan control to Manual and then the lowest PWM voltage (Slope PWM .75) CPUID Hardware monitor says 500 RPM is the minimum. If I ever could get speedfan to work I would use it but I cant so I don't.
post #9433 of 16056
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Honestly I haven't had good luck with Gigabytes so called fan control. Their software that apparently always control over the fans never works on my PC, if I manage to download it all I get is an error message. Although in doing research on the subject EasyTune 6 is a joke anyway so I gave up on it.

If I go into bios and change the fan control to Manual and then the lowest PWM voltage (Slope PWM .75) CPUID Hardware monitor says 500 RPM is the minimum. If I ever could get speedfan to work I would use it but I cant so I don't.
Thanks for the feeback on the gigabyte (+rep), the outcome of the rpms is very similar to Asus minium on manual (40%) on NF-A14 PWM. Here is a screenshot of the bios with the noctua,

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I still find it baffling that they are restricting users that much, when MSI allows 0%, 12.5%, 25%, 37.5% on pure bios, all lower than ASUS, i even started a petition ASUS Bios fan control request, but a new bios came out two days ago and no changes ='(, so here i come MSI,

Btw here is a crappy screenshot that i took while testing the NF-A14 PWM on MSI Z77A-G43 on BIOS, hopping it behaves the same on the MSI Z87-GD65 =)



I can still run it at 12.5% and 0% on it, and fan spins fine, just the mobo doesnt report rpm below 400rpm, will see how is the Z87 on the weekend.
Edited by Abula - 9/18/13 at 9:40pm
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You're most welcome.

Your picture got me thinking so I moved a few things around and came up with some odd results.

Basically I plugged a Noctua into the mobo System Fan 2, while keeping a Noctua plugged into the CPU header. Set both fan controls to Manual and .75 Slope.

The upper most RPM and PWM readings are the CPU the other is System Fan 2


I then went into windows (keeping previous settings) and checked HWMonitor and noticed something odd.
FANIN0 is the CPU and FANIN2 is System Fan 2


So I would assume the bios reading is more accurate than HWMonitor but I don't know for sure. I find it odd there is such a large discrepancy.

I agree, you would think with so many companies offering all kinds of customizing/developer options (Heck! EVGA lets me have 3 bios settings on my GPU) that someone would come up with a good simple program that simply allows users to control fan speeds. Is it really that hard?
Edited by Beemo - 9/18/13 at 10:13pm
post #9435 of 16056
If anyone could shed some light on how well the R4 Define noise protection works, would be awesome.
Please biggrin.gif?
Would be great to hear how much noise comes from the case when having 4 or 5 fans installed and running at medium to max rpm.

I like the look of R4 Define more than R2 arc midi.
But if i find out the noise damping isn´t significant, then ill get the R2 arc.
Edited by Rar4f - 9/19/13 at 4:03am
post #9436 of 16056
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If anyone could shed some light on how well the R4 Define noise protection works, would be awesome.
Please biggrin.gif?
Would be great to hear how much noise comes from the case when having 4 or 5 fans installed and running at medium to max rpm.

I like the look of R4 Define more than R2 arc midi.
But if i find out the noise damping isn´t significant, then ill get the R2 arc.

Hey man, I've got the R4 along with 4 fractal design case fans (2 front, 1 side & 1 rear) along with a Hyper EVO 212 with Fan and 2 x GTX 670 in SLI (4 fans in total).

I can say this case is the quietest I have had. It does get slightly loud when playing BF3(for example) but that is because of the GTX 670's slaving away, nothing to do with case fans - they emit a nice whoosh/blow(didn't know how to describe) noise when high in RPM. I use the fan software included with ASUS motherboards to keep them at low RPM in normal usage.

Just got an ASUS Maximus VI Formula motherboard delivered today - this gives me the option to add 2 extra fractal design fans - I odn't like the look of other fans to be honest, especially Noctua(UGH!!).
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Thanks friend. But noise noticed when playing bf is not good. In that case (no pun intended), ill prolly go with r2.
Dont see point of r4 define if noise from gpu is heard.

Though i must say its pretty great case anyway.

R2 midi arc is winning the race now smile.gif has extra stock fan, and i prefer its top vents (3) vs define r4 (2).
post #9438 of 16056
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R2 midi arc is winning the race now smile.gif has extra stock fan, and i prefer its top vents (3) vs define r4 (2).

It's also one of the best cases for your money right now. It's listed at $65/shipped on Newegg:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352031&Tpk=arc%20midi%20r2
    
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Thanks friend. But noise noticed when playing bf is not good. In that case (no pun intended), ill prolly go with r2.
Dont see point of r4 define if noise from gpu is heard.

Though i must say its pretty great case anyway.

R2 midi arc is winning the race now smile.gif has extra stock fan, and i prefer its top vents (3) vs define r4 (2).

its sound DAMPENING, not sound ISOLATING tongue.gif

on another note, if you have a reference card, it will be loud in any case P:
Edited by kyismaster - 9/19/13 at 11:21am
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A PC can only be as quiet as the components allow it.
Sure a dampened case will help, but dont expect miracles. wink.gif
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