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Originally Posted by Sp33d Junki3 View Post

Scythe Mugen 4 is ok cooler, not sure what the cost is for you.
My thread about choosing cooler is here http://www.overclock.net/t/1443679/cpu-cooler-for-powerful-gaming-etc-quiet-pc/10
I am choosing between this and Noktua NH-D14 (there is also NH-U12P SE2 but as I understood D14 is better). Mugen 4 is a lot cheaper and as I understood there is no much difference between them.
Edited by Alex11223 - 11/20/13 at 2:23am
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You guys are missing the point here. I will be removing the ODD bays to make room for a 360mm radiator in the top of my case.....so no room for a fan controller. I already have one, but I can't use it if I upgrade to a 360mm rad.

240mm rad in front in push/pull = 4 fans
360mm rad up top in push/pull = 6 fans
140mm exhaust fan in rear = 1 fan

Total = 11 fans

I have room for 6 fans on my motherboard. That leaves 5 fans that would need power, and some level of control would also be nice if possible.


Something like this would work but then I would have to run 5 fans at full speed 24/7 and that could be loud...slightly defeating the purpose of watercooling
haha
http://www.amazon.com/NZXT-Technologies-AC-GRID-10-M1-Cooling-Black/dp/B00D2ZK2VW/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

Actually you can add a bay controller. You just need to mod a little so you can mount it.

Arc Midi Alphacool XT45 360 rad mod


Use something like this to make new mounts.

Edited by a11an - 11/20/13 at 6:38am
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You guys are missing the point here. I will be removing the ODD bays to make room for a 360mm radiator in the top of my case.....so no room for a fan controller. I already have one, but I can't use it if I upgrade to a 360mm rad.

240mm rad in front in push/pull = 4 fans
360mm rad up top in push/pull = 6 fans
140mm exhaust fan in rear = 1 fan

Total = 11 fans

I have room for 6 fans on my motherboard. That leaves 5 fans that would need power, and some level of control would also be nice if possible.


Something like this would work but then I would have to run 5 fans at full speed 24/7 and that could be loud...slightly defeating the purpose of watercooling
haha
http://www.amazon.com/NZXT-Technologies-AC-GRID-10-M1-Cooling-Black/dp/B00D2ZK2VW/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
What you can do is get all your fans to be PWM. You get Swiftech 8 Way PWM Splitter, you'll need 2 of them. You plug both to the CPU header and CPU_OPT as they are the only true PWM, the rest of the headers are not and only voltage.

Other option is to get a fan controller, as you can use more than one fan per header. 5 bay = 10 fans you can run. But you need to find a way to get control of it.
    
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What you can do is get all your fans to be PWM. You get Swiftech 8 Way PWM Splitter, you'll need 2 of them. You plug both to the CPU header and CPU_OPT as they are the only true PWM, the rest of the headers are not and only voltage.

Other option is to get a fan controller, as you can use more than one fan per header. 5 bay = 10 fans you can run. But you need to find a way to get control of it.
I don't think Scythe AP-15s are PWM fans, they are 3 pin. So if I went that route with the splitter, they would only be voltage controlled.

The Aquaero+water sensor seems like the best choice right now, but if I'm feeling particularly crafty I might try modding the case to fit a controller.
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Now that I look at it, I don't even know how you remove the ODD bay rack. Those don't look like screws holding it in place.
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you would need to remove, cut or drill out the rivets.
    
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I don't think Scythe AP-15s are PWM fans, they are 3 pin. So if I went that route with the splitter, they would only be voltage controlled.

The Aquaero+water sensor seems like the best choice right now, but if I'm feeling particularly crafty I might try modding the case to fit a controller.

Afaik if you use a molex or sata powered pwm splitter with 3 pin fans, they won't even be voltage controlled, they'll just run full speed, because the connector that plugs into the mb header is 2 pin, rpm sensor + speed control. They obviously don't need the 12v and ground because the molex/sata connection handles that. Maybe the Swiftech is different, but this is how the Gelid, Akasa, and Okgear pwm smart splitters work.

Aquaero is so expensive... If all you need is fan power and basic control that seems like a really inefficient solution. Definitely looks like a fun toy though, especially that remote. Where would the Aquaero be housed? Aren't those all bay devices? I thought the problem was the lack of an available bay. If you have the bay you can get a cheaper fan controller.
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Afaik if you use a molex or sata powered pwm splitter with 3 pin fans, they won't even be voltage controlled, they'll just run full speed, because the connector that plugs into the mb header is 2 pin, rpm sensor + speed control. They obviously don't need the 12v and ground because the molex/sata connection handles that. Maybe the Swiftech is different, but this is how the Gelid, Akasa, and Okgear pwm smart splitters work.

Aquaero is so expensive... If all you need is fan power and basic control that seems like a really inefficient solution. Definitely looks like a fun toy though, especially that remote. Where would the Aquaero be housed? Aren't those all bay devices? I thought the problem was the lack of an available bay. If you have the bay you can get a cheaper fan controller.

I don't think the Aquaero 5 LT USB is supposed to be a bay device. I think the benefit of this is that I can connect it to an in-line temperature sensor and use software to set a fan profile based on that. I was thinking of just putting it on the floor of my case, hidden somewhere. But perhaps modding my case to fit a typical bay fan controller might be a better and cleaner choice.


Has anyone here removed the ODD bay on their Arc Midi and can give me some tips. This is way more difficult than I thought it would be.

edit: nevermind, I got it. All I needed to do was drill through them.
Edited by Anoxy - 11/20/13 at 11:58am
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I don't think the Aquaero 5 LT USB is supposed to be a bay device. I think the benefit of this is that I can connect it to an in-line temperature sensor and use software to set a fan profile based on that. I was thinking of just putting it on the floor of my case, hidden somewhere. But perhaps modding my case to fit a typical bay fan controller might be a better and cleaner choice.


Has anyone here removed the ODD bay on their Arc Midi and can give me some tips. This is way more difficult than I thought it would be.

edit: nevermind, I got it. All I needed to do was drill through them.


The the Aquaero 5 LT USB is not a bay device it can be placed anywhere in the case. If you are going to water cool dont forget the temp sensors for the water if you want a true fan curve/control . Thanks
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I have a Define Mini headed this way; reviews I have read indicate it is quiet but thermally inept, due largely to the stock fans. What would be a suitable replacement for the 120mm stock fans, keeping in mind I need this thing to be quiet?
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