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As stated, I have a Xonar DX, NOT a DAC.

What cables do i use for my Xonar DX?
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Well considering I have a Xonar DX, im assuming it's unbalanced right? Not sure where the other 3.5mm end would go once I have one of them already plugged into the front speaker output on my DX.
I mentioned the S/PDIF route because you have a port for that on your Xonar DX. External DAC = Balanced and higher quality audio. Though, I also mentioned it would be more cost effective to run shorter cables and route them intelligently. I thought you wanted to know your options.

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Yes it will work, but you will be running unbalanced. I would not go over 15/20 feet unbalanced. Unbalanced, the shorter the better.
Basically what I just said.
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Then yes, that would be the most cost effective way to setup your speaks, seeing how the xonar dx outputs 3.5mm stereo.

If you wanted to step it up with the cable you could do this:
http://store.haveinc.com/p-52592-hav...-2ts-10ft.aspx

but it would put you over budget. Honestly, with that setup, I would probably not buy this. Well but i don't buy premade cable anyways.

but be warned, there maybe some ground noise (/group loop noise).
Im not even going to try to make my own cables

I cant find that cable that I linked in 6ft. The 3ft would only be long enough for my left monitor but short for the right.

Should I just go with the 10ft?
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I mentioned the S/PDIF route because you have a port for that on your Xonar DX. External DAC = Balanced and higher quality audio. Though, I also mentioned it would be more cost effective to run shorter cables and route them intelligently. I thought you wanted to know your options.
Yea I just spent $350 on audio equipment which is already over my budget. If I get a DAC, it will be later. I want to use my BX5a now though.
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post #34 of 38
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Yea I just spent $350 on audio equipment which is already over my budget. If I get a DAC, it will be later. I want to use my BX5a now though.
Just go with the 10ft cable. It should be fine. Just try to route it the best you can.
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Just go with the 10ft cable. It should be fine. Just try to route it the best you can.
Will do, thanks
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TRS and TS can both be 1/4" cables. Specifically, TRS refers to "Tip, Ring, Sleeve" and can be a balanced mono cable, or an unbalanced Stereo cable. TS (Tip, Sleeve) is an unbalanced mono cable.

The Y cable you're looking at is TRS to two TS cables.

Depending on what your running the speakers into (Basic soundcard, professional soundcard, Audio Interface, etc) it would be much better to run two independent TRS or XLR cables to the speakers. Balanced cables will reduce the amount of noise and hum that are normally picked up from unbalanced cables.

Just remember, you can't make an unbalanced signal balanced again. Plugging a balanced cable into an unbalanced port is still unbalanced. The Stereo 2.5mm port you plug into isn't balanced. You'll only be able to run a pure balanced connection if you have separate Left and Right inputs. Hence, if you're using an Audio Interface or Professional sound card, you'll be able to run balanced cables to your speakers.
Im still confused about balanced vs unbalanced cable. Does balanced cable mean two separate cables (instead of a Y splitter cable)? And does your sound card have to support a balanced cable for it to work?
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TRS and TS can both be 1/4" cables. Specifically, TRS refers to "Tip, Ring, Sleeve" and can be a balanced mono cable, or an unbalanced Stereo cable. TS (Tip, Sleeve) is an unbalanced mono cable.


The Y cable you're looking at is TRS to two TS cables.


Depending on what your running the speakers into (Basic soundcard, professional soundcard, Audio Interface, etc) it would be much better to run two independent TRS or XLR cables to the speakers. Balanced cables will reduce the amount of noise and hum that are normally picked up from unbalanced cables.


Just remember, you can't make an unbalanced signal balanced again. Plugging a balanced cable into an unbalanced port is still unbalanced. The Stereo 2.5mm port you plug into isn't balanced. You'll only be able to run a pure balanced connection if you have separate Left and Right inputs. Hence, if you're using an Audio Interface or Professional sound card, you'll be able to run balanced cables to your speakers.



Im still confused about balanced vs unbalanced cable. Does balanced cable mean two separate cables (instead of a Y splitter cable)? And does your sound card have to support a balanced cable for it to work?


Basically a balanced cable is a stereo cable. The only difference is what you plug it into. For instance, if you plug it into the headphone jack on your phone it functions as an unbalanced stereo cable. However, if you plug it into a Left mono jack on a soundcard that supports balanced output, it will function as a balanced mono cable.

So, a stereo (TRS) cable can either be an unbalanced stereo signal, or a balanced mono signal.

Also, in case you were wondering how this all works, the balanced signal works by duplicating the signal over the two wires and inverting one of them at the point of origin. Along the way the cables will pick up noise, however the noise is cancelled out at the end when the polarity of the inverted wire is switched back again.

So, you will first need to verify that your soundcard can send out balanced signals in the first place. Once you've verified that it does, make sure the speakers support it, and then make sure you will need a stereo (TRS) cable for each speaker. Also, unless your soundcard has some special connector to support it, you need one cable per channel. Splitters won't work.

Sorry this took so long. I never got an e-mail notification. :-/
Edited by pocketdrummer - 9/30/13 at 11:22am
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Also, if my explanation doesn't help, mosey on down to tweakheadz.com. He seems to be better at conveying this information.

http://tweakheadz.com/all-about-cables/
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