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NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Its a great idea, but heck no with MS behind it.

MS is already screwy and dumb, and only use Win7 cuz its standard and everything works with it. I dont want MS telling me I cant go on the net because my PC may have a virus and requires a MS pass to get online.

YEA NO THANK YOU M$
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Originally Posted by allikat View Post
Hrm, and how would apple/android/linux/etc systems get these certificates? They really need some software that blocks people whose machines show botnet activity, and redirect all their http requests to a page telling them how to clean their machines.
It's MS, they'd at most offer a way for OS X and the iOS..Android, Linux, etc would get screwed over dramatically probably.

At least until someone makes a generator for Linux, etc.

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Originally Posted by lordikon View Post
This is a terrible idea. They want means with which to deny PCs access to the entire Internet? What comes next? "Oh sorry, you're not using approved hardware to the Internet, please go buy the latest blah blah blah in order to resume Internet surfing." or maybe "We're sorry, you've visited non-approved sites in the last two days, you've been banned from the Internet for a week."

And as others have said, a health certificate could be forged.
This.

It starts off as "viruses only", then transfers to "Windows only", then goes to "IE only" as well, I'd only be for this if a completely independent company did it, including launch day and often updated software to let any OS through, not just the popular ones.


I have a better way to keep viruses at bay! Every time sites get a request for data, simply check the information on what the user is using for stuff like "Internet Explorer" and "Windows", block them from the site with a message saying "You're at risk of getting a virus, go to Linux or OS X asap!" and chances are the amount of viruses will be cut down dramatically.
    
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It's a trap! They want people to program viruses for Mac OS!
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post #114 of 233
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That's a good idea. Influx in computer repair & maintenance related jobs, and a safer overall worldwide network. The base that determines what is 'healthy' and what isn't would have to be rock solid though.
I'm guessing that the idea is that if it detects a worm it will shut down the computer before the worm replicates and sends itself off to more computers.

In less than a month there will be a virus/worm where the worm infects the server and constructs virus trojans in programs and sends them off at a massive rate, the viruses won't do anything other than make the computers 'sick', essentially, shutting down the entire internet.

It would devestate the internet.
    
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Have they stopped to consider that it usually takes downloads off the internet to get rid of an infection or to study how others have gotten rid of an infection? This idea is ludicrous. Not everyone has the luxury of multiple computers in which to do research/cleaning on via 2nd or 3rd PC. Dumb ideas are dumb.
    
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It's MS, they'd at most offer a way for OS X and the iOS..Android, Linux, etc would get screwed over dramatically probably.

At least until someone makes a generator for Linux, etc.



This.

It starts off as "viruses only", then transfers to "Windows only", then goes to "IE only" as well, I'd only be for this if a completely independent company did it, including launch day and often updated software to let any OS through, not just the popular ones.
So, then a better way to say this is that you will never be for it? Quite sensible.
post #117 of 233
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Originally Posted by Chunky_Chimp View Post
That has nothing to do with what the OS is OR the updates, and everything to do with the antivirus. I noticed you didn't say if they didn't run an AV, too. Every chance you get, you bash Windows updates, and rarely (if ever) does anyone else do the same on these forums... you seriously seem to be in a minority where you don't think updates to the OS do any good.
They don't. My parents run up-to-date AV and OS. They have more malware than I know what to do with. My mom's laptop, for example, redirects you to some landing page on mybrowserbar.com when you get a page load error of some sort. Sometimes it even redirects when you get a search that returns nothing, which is annoying as hell. My dad's laptop is slow as hell and there's about six or seven toolbars I've disabled and uninstalled, and there's ads that manage to get past Ad Block Plus. That's a pretty sure-fire sign there's malware operating when you get ads getting around ABP.

I run no updates at all and only scan once every three or four months and don't ever have anything show up.

Wanna know why? I don't click on everything I see. I don't install toolbars. I don't download everything I see. What I do download is from a trusted source, and is scanned before being executed if I don't trust the source but have to download it anyways.

You can patch the OS till you're blue in the face and you won't fix a damn thing. A dumb user will find a way to install malware regardless of how patched or unpatched the OS is. Patching the OS does nothing to protect the machine from the same security risk every computer ever built has. So feel free believing all those patches make you more secure. You're wrong. But you're welcome to believe it.


On a somewhat unrelated note I'd love to see Microsoft release a patch that makes my mom and dad less stupid when it comes to the internet. It'd be a godsend for overclockers around the world that have electronically inept relatives, not just me. I'm sure you have some relatives that fit the bill.
Edited by TestECull - 10/7/10 at 10:49am
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post #119 of 233
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Originally Posted by Madman340 View Post
That's a good idea. Influx in computer repair & maintenance related jobs, and a safer overall worldwide network. The base that determines what is 'healthy' and what isn't would have to be rock solid though.
People shouldn't be wasting their time fixing computers that shouldn't be getting "sick" in the first place. They should be doing more productive things.
post #120 of 233
This sounds like it simply won't work. Also, I doubt anyone will even be protected further.

Think about it. You can't go on the internet unless your computer is healthy. Easiest way to get a virus? Go on the internet! Also, viruses don't usually spread from random computer to random computer. So you're really not any safer.

Also, what if you only have one PC? Scaaarooed.
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