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Better solution....

Require users to have a license to operate a PC.
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ah ocn, paranoied as ever. Don't you guys ever think that you might not be the very first person in the whole world to think that some concept might be flawed if implemented in a certain way? I'd be willing to bet that M$ has thought of everything you have said so far. They likely arnt actually going to do anything, everything they release to the press is just to get people to look at them and say "hey, microsoft is still alive and doing something, lets buy their stock".

If they actually DO go through with trying to make an "internet-wide quarantine", they could really only do this for machines running a modern windows OS. They cant block you from accessing the internet unless their software is on your computer to begin with, as you should all know and likely do but are too worked up to realize. ISPs wouldnt enforce it themselves, it would cost them money with no return, and cause them to lose customers.

Even then, the actual implementation of this would likely just be to preload MSE on everyone's computer, force it to run in the background, and automatically have it disable the network card if anything is found that cant be removed automatically. As with all windows utilities and what not, a few min in the registry will disable this feature and we can all go on with our lives. Sure, total noobs wont know what to do, but hell we dont need them online anyway.

Its not a big deal. Relax. Life will go on.
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post #53 of 233
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whereby a machine is checked to make sure that software patches are applied
NO. JUST NO. There's a good reason some people don't apply the absolute spam of patches Microsoft farts out. My rig has none of these updates, runs fine, and doesn't have a speck of malware on it. My regular A/V scans prove this. Boot to the Head is uninfected despite running RTM Vista.


Also, my parent's laptops, both of which are kept fully up to date, are both infected with quite a bit. I can't be assed to clean 'em off. One runs Vista, one 7.

Patching your OS makes it exactly 0% more secure. Throw a user on it who has no idea what they're doing and you'll have more toolbars than screen space faster than you can say "BANZAI BUDDY?!". All the patches in the world won't even slow it down.

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a firewall is installed and configured correctly
Again, hell no. I have a firewall in my router which is configured properly. I don't need a software one. It'd be redundant as hell, cause more problems than it's worth, and who's to say whether or not it's configured correctly? What if having Port 27015, a common port used by Source engine games which I have set to open so I can host them, is deemed to be unsafe? Why should I be disallowed the right to host a local Garry's Mod server because some random jackass on the other end of the country decides the port Gmod uses is a possible avenue of attack and thusly must be stomped on?

To top that all off, a hardware firewall is always more secure than a software one when they're both configured correctly, and since I haven't been opening ports willy nilly mine is.





In short: Aw Hell Naw, and I want the man who came up with this hair-brained scheme drawn and quartered. Preferrably with a Fermi.
Edited by TestECull - 10/6/10 at 10:51pm
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NO NO NO. I can't believe this is even being suggested.
    
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Kill it with a crowbar.
(I will end up running the implementation in WINE...
on My linux router if it goes through, so that all MS sees is a text file saying WHAT NAO?)
 
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If anything, it'll give us something to laugh at when Bestbuy/Geek squad starts selling these health certs at a nice premium.
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What would work better. Is give all those millions of crap HP, Compaq, Dell and Emachines a stock antivirus better than McAfee. And 1 year with new computers. Not 3 months. Most people aren't smart enough during the first 3 months. After a year many have learned enough that they know to update the AV. Lol. This might lower the family's across the world with slow computers
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Code:

if(!preg_match('/MSIE \\d\\.\\d/', $_SERVER['HTTP_USER_AGENT'])):
  $quarantine = Bullschmit::getQuarantine();
  $quarantine->setMessage('To access the internet, your computer must first have a valid health certificate.');
  exit($quarantine->render());
endif; 

Edited by Lyoko - 10/6/10 at 11:37pm
post #59 of 233
i love this idea and i hope it goes through!!!
post #60 of 233
I hate this idea with passion.

I agree completely with TestECull - I am the person who will decide what I leave open or closed. It's not a decision for someone or some corporation to make. I don't use AV software... and I've never gotten a virus before (I usually get a bunch of AV software before formatting for curiosities sake).

If I want to [be an idiot and] leave my computer in the DMZ, it's my choice.
    
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