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They try to stop pirating through "trusted computing" and the like, taking away our privacy, control, now I will be likely to download illegal, cracked versions that don't have all of their spyware, and trusted computing stuff in it.

It is a shame they have to ruin computing like this. It just wont be the same.
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post #23 of 34
For example, finger print scanners on laptops use TPM.

The chip itself does nothing more than provide an encryption layer (encrypt, decrypt) that is secure. Hell, you could make a trusted *ux kernel - such that the system could not boot with boot time rootkits.

It could be used for things such as access to local system (finger print scanners) to just about anything.

MS adding support in Vista is no different than the fact that probably all software applications will probably use it in one way or another over the next few years.

If you are pissed about DRM - then get the laws change. Else expect companies to operate within their legal boundaries. Of course DRM apps can use it (esp the root cert aspects).. But again, change the laws, don't ***** about them enforcing them.
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finger print scanners .. um.. biometrics yea im against that you wont ever see one of those devices in my system..
    
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And The Linux Empire Gains Power!!
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This is a lot like building a lock that can't be picked ..

It has only been used a few times (in this case, for finger print scanners) but everyone is CERTAIN that the lock will be used to keep them out of stuff.

It hasn't even happened yet.

However, anyone that wants to drop that lock on their crap, can. If you don't want locked stuff, don't buy it. Use it. Whatever.

It is just a fancy lock system that requires some damn fancy key creation equipment to bust. I am sure a lot of people (myself included) will be loading up logic analyzers, EMP-300s and tons of desoldering braids and related devices to test and probe ways around.

However, you start adding in new encryption techs from IBM (http://edition.cnn.com/2006/BUSINESS/04/10/ibm.chip.ap/) and it starts getting damn ugly in the next 10 years.
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post #27 of 34
i dont see those fp scanners as a lock i see them as a way to identify a person using a system that cant deny it was them not saying i do shady things but hell its to big brotherish another way to track where we go what we do and when we do it
    
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*annurism*

That fully depends on HOW THE PERSON WROTE THE SOFTWARE.

It has nothing to do with TPM in general.

If the software uses the TPM to provide a secure way to let you log on to a laptop with a fingerprint *and* send a copy of your fingerprint to SlashDot... Yes, that would be bad.

Know and trust your software.

Google collects more crap on everyone than anyone else on the planet. And one day, it might get loose. You stop using google? Do you trust *no-one*?

How about an open source fingerprint scan TPM interface for laptops? Trust that?

Again, it has NOTHING TO DO WITH TPM. Only with what apps are using it.

And I happily use my scanners on my Motion systems, IBM systems and some 3rd party expansion readers on other devices.
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Something is wrong with our society in general. We didn't elected these CEO's to decide what happens, I am sure they are great people, but they are making more and more decisions that greatly effect us every day. More and more they are becoming the authoritative rule. It is sad. It is unsustainable. We will suffer for their mistakes. Not just for "trusted computing" and DRM, but in nearly every industry.

I see this thread becoming very political in nature.
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Something is wrong with our society in general. We didn't elected these CEO's to decide what happens, I am sure they are great people, but they are making more and more decisions that greatly effect us every day. More and more they are becoming the authoritative rule. It is sad. It is unsustainable. We will suffer for their mistakes. Not just for "trusted computing" and DRM, but in nearly every industry.

I see this thread becoming very political in nature.
politics religon and sports.. im out.. RUN RUN WHILE YOU CAN..
    
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