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ok this is my question i am looking to buy some new amd parts and ditch this intel but some people said i should wait for am2 which i've read is just revamped 940? what do you guys think? edit.. i cant belive i just put this in the wrong place.....
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I'm waiting for conroe. AM2 has an insignificant performance boost over 939.
     
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what is conroe? is that a new processor line?
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I'm an AMD guy and I say to wait either for AM2 either for the Intel Conroe.
The AM2 doesn't offer a noticeable performance bonus over soket 939, but it opens the upgrade path, since for the 939 there will be no new CPU from now on.
As for the Conroe it seems to offer a huge performance boost... if they release a part @ around 150€ I'm gonna have my second Intel rig ever.

EDIT* Intel Conroe is some kind of Pentium5, totaly new architecture and it's due to show up in the summer.

EDIT2* Look at some benchmarks of Conroe: http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=2713
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isnt that why AMD is coming out with their Reverse HT technology or something?

Edit:Those benches are impressive but i never knew intel had a new setup i guess i'll wait and see who pulls out on top
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Originally Posted by TourTeX
isnt that why AMD is coming out with their Reverse HT technology or something?
AMD will bring to their CPUs in the near future a tech called HT3.0, not sure what reverse HT means.
The next major update for AMD won't be in my oppinion the AM2. They will launch in winter 2007 a new CPU code-name K8L wich is supposed to bring back the performance leadership from the Conroe.
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Originally Posted by dragosmp
AMD will bring to their CPUs in the near future a tech called HT3.0, not sure what reverse HT means.
The next major update for AMD won't be in my oppinion the AM2. They will launch in winter 2007 a new CPU code-name K8L wich is supposed to bring back the performance leadership from the Conroe.
right i just yesterday read that the k8l technology was a pretty much reverse of intels Ht i'll look for the link
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Quote:
Originally Posted by claymanhb
I'm waiting for conroe. AM2 has an insignificant performance boost over 939.
Actual the AM2 has performance decreases until AMD comes out with the processors that can utalize DDR2. Switching to AM2 right away will have a performance decrease.

Quote:
Originally Posted by TourTeX
what is conroe? is that a new processor line?
Conroe is the desktop version of Intel new Core technology. Core is based on the Memron and P3. It is completely different from Netburt (Pentium) and does not even carry the same name. Intel is going from a 41 stage pipeline to a 14 stage pipeline, meaning it is going from 6 operations per clock to about 12. Current AMD processors do 9 operations per clock. All Conroes will be 65nm, and in Q1 2007, 45nm versions will be released. Conroe presents sigificant perfromance boost, more efficinient power consumption, and most importantly a better FPU (for those gamers.) A stock Conroe at 2.4Ghz has a 21s super pi time. I am not sure if you know you Super Pi times, but a 5.5Ghz P4 will get about 24seconds, and a 3.5Ghz AMD will get about 24s (both OC.net records).

Conroe will be priced very low:


Here is the Conroe Super Pi:



Considering that a stock Conroe would set the OC.net Super Pi 1M record by 3s, and is only $300, I think it would be a good idea to wait for Conroe. It will be released in July.

Quote:
Originally Posted by dragosmp
EDIT* Intel Conroe is some kind of Pentium5, totaly new architecture and it's due to show up in the summer.
Pentium not longer exist with the release of Conroe. It is now Core architecture.

BTW- HT (as in HyperThreading) is a dead technology with the introduction of dual core and quad core (Q1 2007).
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If you are going to have enough money to upgrade agian in late 2006/ early 2007, then I would buy now. Otherwise, wait to see what Intel and AMD pulls out of the hat. You shouldn't really judge based off speculation. Conroe looks good, but it is hard to see through all of the hype. AMD isn't just going to sit on their butts while Intel takes the gaming market. Wait, and we will see.
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