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post #21 of 42
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alomst all hardware is outdated by the time you get it.
I agree with you that technology moves on. However, the Pentium 4 was originally released in 2000. That is six years ago. This is ~ the same time that the Athlon was originally released and although both processors have had numerous refreshes, the core architecture is basically the same.

The Conroe is an entirely new architectural platform. I PERSONALLY believe that since there is only months to await this new architecture, one would do well to do so rather than purchase a new older architectural processor when the price of those ones will drastically drop upon release of the new architectural processor.

This is my personal view.


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one would do well to do so rather than purchase a new older architectural processor when the price of those ones will drastically drop upon release of the new architectural processor.
That would be why I would wait for the price to drop before purchasing it. My goal is to have a system that will perform all games at max with no problems for at least 2 years. Being top of the line isn't a concern, especially because of the cost aspects.

Does anyone know what socket type the Conroes will use? I assume then the Conroes will require whole new motherboard types as well...?
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post #23 of 42
The Conroes will use the same form factor (LGA 775) although there will have to be revisions of older motherboards to support the VRM. Some say that the Intel 975 will have built in support for the Conroe, although is looking as though there might well have to be a new revision of this board as well.

There is supposed to be a 965 release from Intel that will support Conroe. Since this release is a lower integer than the 975 leads me to believe that they will have support for the 975 either after a revision or built in. My view is a new revision though.

The prices of the Conroe on release will be very easily managed and will compare to the 9xx series.

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I was going to purchase a Pentium D 930 until I found out about the price drop of the 950. When exactly is the Conroe coming out?
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post #25 of 42
You are worried about the Conroe costing so much, but it is cheaper than the Preslers are now!

You will be able to get the E6700 for $316 (about what a Pentium D 950 will cost April 24th). The E6700 crushes the 950, you are talking about a 15+second drop in superpi 1M time... If you are waiting, you want to get Conroe. Even one of the cheaper ones.

Edit* Conroe will be released in July.
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How will the Conroe be so much better when the listed speeds are below 3GHz? Also, the article I read listed only the cheap Conroe chips at that price, not the better ones. There is also the cost of the new motherboards to consider. I imagine they will be initially a bit more expensive than the others.
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post #27 of 42
Do not fall into the error of GHz. It is necessary to look at WPW (Work Per Watt) or IPT (Instructions Per Tick) which are now the methods of decision on performance.

Research:

http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=2713
http://www.hothardware.com/viewartic...leid=794&cid=1
http://www.pureoverclock.com/story499.html
http://www.techamok.com/?pid=526

Take your time. You still have a decent machine. Become informed I can tell that you are one for research which is a mark of good thinking so research away.

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If GHz were all that matter, my Northy would still beat most of the AMD's out there.. obviously, in reality, that's not true
    
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post #29 of 42
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So is the cheapest Conroe going to be better than the Pentium D 950 performance wise? Does it overclock well?

The tests had much better RAM on the intel system than the AMD one, which makes me wonder if that had any bearing on the test results... I'm probably just missing something.

P.S. That intelliTXT crap is annoying!
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post #30 of 42
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So is the cheapest Conroe going to be better than the Pentium D 950 performance wise? Does it overclock well?
Here is a application run by the Conroe and 950:

The lower the time the better:




Does that answer your question?

Errr the images do not work:

http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=2712
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