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I have recently become obsessed with the Total Cost of Ownership (TCO) of a folding farm and I have endeavored to find the BEST COMPUTER to run a farm of for as LITTLE MONEY as possible.

Since this computer is going to be running 24/7 power became my biggest concern. At $0.10 KWh for power (a conservative estimate) a computer using 200W of power would cost $175 a year. (0.1*0.200*24*365=$175)

Note: the computer must be complete, however no monitor, keyboard, mouse, or CD-ROM is needed as you can setup and mantain the farm with one for all of them. Also you must use eXtreme PSU Calculator v1.3 to calculate power for the setup

For the sake of argument I calculated power on a 2 year bases.

I am going to keep a spread sheet of the scores and update it here.

P.S. winner decided on MHz/dollar basis. All Intel Rigs will multiply there clock speed my 2/3 because AMD does 9ops/clock vs Intel 6ops/clock)
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post #2 of 19
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I will start things off with:

I went to www.ncix.com (Canada dollars) and found what I thought was the best computer for the money. Bare Bones case, the cheapest HDD I could find, enough ram, the cheapest motherboard I could find and a good reliable PSU from FSP. I picked the AMD X2 3800+ because two cores is twice as power efficient as one and will crank out the work units.

Case - Nikao 8009 Black $30
Video Card - None $0
HDD - Maxtor Fireball 541DX (20GB) $39
Ram
- SAMSUNG3200512 (512MB) $50
CPU - AMD X2 3800+ Retail $360
Motherboard - Asus A8V-MX $70
Cooling - Stock $0
PSU - FSP ATX300-PA 300W 3$0
Power - 175W $306
Total: $885

Using eXtreme PSU Calculator v1.3 I calculated 175W for this overclocked setup.

Assuming an overclock from 2GHz @1.35V to 2.4GHz @1.4V (20% clock increase for a 16% power increase.)

That’s 4.8GHz of AMD folding power for a 2 year TCO of $885 (canadaian)
Or 5.42Mhz per dollar.

Beat that if you can!!!!!!!
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post #3 of 19
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Guess no one else is interested in a competition about something other then MAX performance??? Or maybe its to hard?

Okay, so I beat my own Numbers with an Intel D 805

Case - Nikao 8009 Black $30
Video Card - None $0
HDD - Maxtor Fireball 541DX (20GB) $39
Ram
- SAMSUNG3200512 (512MB) $50
CPU - Intel D 805 Retail $191
Motherboard - PCChips P21G $64
Cooling - Stock $0
PSU - FSP ATX300-PA 300W $30
Power - 196W $343
Total: $747

Using eXtreme PSU Calculator v1.3 I calculated 196W for this overclocked setup.

Assuming an overclock from 2.66GHz @1.35V to 3.8GHz @1.45V( I googled some web sites and a few said this could be done on stock cooling)

That’s 5.067GHz of AMD folding power for a 2 year TCO of $747 (canadaian)
Or 6.78Mhz per dollar.
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post #4 of 19
hrmm.... if i knew how to convert the power used per day by the computer and then understand the whole kil watt hours i would be intrested
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post #5 of 19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by watertown1978
hrmm.... if i knew how to convert the power used per day by the computer and then understand the whole kil watt hours i would be intrested
Okay, first go to eXtreme PSU calculator, find out how many watts you setup uses. I'll use 200W as an example. 200W is 0.2KW at $0.1/KWh is $0.02/h. Mulitpy by the number of hours in 2 years = 24h*365days*2years*$0.02/h = $350. If you have anymore question just ask!

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post #6 of 19
I win! Intel core duo 2.0ghz with 1 stick DDR2, cd drive, and sata hard drive = 115 watts! I don't feel like figuring out the rest...
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post #7 of 19
Am I doing something wrong. My computer overclocked to 2500MHz takes up 233 Watts.

.1*.233*24*365.25*2 = $408 Dollars / 2 years.

2500MHz / $408 = 6.13

Are you guys taking your MHz value and X by 2 because two 2000MHz Cores is effectivley 4000MHz, right?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fishie36
I win! Intel core duo 2.0ghz with 1 stick DDR2, cd drive, and sata hard drive = 115 watts! I don't feel like figuring out the rest...
In your case that would be $206 per two years.

2667 MHz/ $206 is 12.94

Why are we doing it for two years? That confuses me. Do I need to divide the number by two? Kind of useless in that case.
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post #8 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by BSman
I have recently become obsessed with the Total Cost of Ownership (TCO) of a folding farm and I have endeavored to find the BEST COMPUTER to run a farm of for as LITTLE MONEY as possible.

Since this computer is going to be running 24/7 power became my biggest concern. At $0.10 KWh for power (a conservative estimate) a computer using 200W of power would cost $175 a year. (0.1*0.200*24*365=$175)

Note: the computer must be complete, however no monitor, keyboard, mouse, or CD-ROM is needed as you can setup and mantain the farm with one for all of them. Also you must use eXtreme PSU Calculator v1.3 to calculate power for the setup

For the sake of argument I calculated power on a 2 year bases.

I am going to keep a spread sheet of the scores and update it here.

P.S. winner decided on MHz/dollar basis. All Intel Rigs will multiply there clock speed my 2/3 because AMD does 9ops/clock vs Intel 6ops/clock)
A Core Duo build should be multiplied by 4/3 because they do around 12 operations per clock.
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post #9 of 19
Differant places have differant rates, I have 33rigs that cost me @$125.00 a month.
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post #10 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by jrabb1920
Differant places have differant rates, I have 33rigs that cost me @$125.00 a month.
Wow! $125 a month, that is pretty heafty.
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