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post #71 of 112

3/30/11 at 3:23pm

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Still enjoying my black widow ultimate sense i preordered.

Not one problem and the keys still look good and i game heavy on it too.

It replaced my xarmor u9bl because i like the feel and the sound the black widow makes more, And also too me more solid.

But my xarmor is still getting use on my server pc

But for razer stuff i never had a problem with there products and im not a fanboy either of them, Sense i also own the razer mamba but that got replaced with a xai

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3/30/11 at 3:44pm

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The mamba isn't a bad mouse either. You got lucky with your Black Widow though.

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3/30/11 at 3:50pm

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The mamba isn't a bad mouse either. You got lucky with your Black Widow though.

Ya maybe i did but it did seem like the first batch widows was the best batch out of them all it seems like the problems started in the later dated ones.

Pretty much like any other product there's always bad batch's out there.

Ya the mamba is still great but i just prefer the xai over it now because it doesn't have those sensor problems that the mamba have like the cursor will move with my speakers depends on how loud it is, And the lift off is much better on the xai, But ya none of thoes problems really bother me but i do miss the wireless that the mamba has... But the xai is just a better mouse for me.

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3/30/11 at 4:04pm

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Sure, I can if you really want me to..

I'm trying to help people not get ripped of by Razer's horrible products, and spend the same amount of money on something that is much better.

The only Razer products that are worth the money are their headsets, and the Naga mouse. Anything else is garbage. If Razer were to reduce the price on all of their products by 50%, then I amongst most gamers would not have an issue with them.

It's purely the fact that they price their products WELL above what their actually worth, and advertise useless features that don't even work properly to try and look "Pro Gamer Tier". It's not only that, but they REALLY need to work on their customer service.

Their headsets?... I stopped reading at that. Sennheiser, etc just blows the typical "gaming" headset out of the water.

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3/30/11 at 4:29pm

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Yes, the xai is amazing. I love most of Steelseries' products. I have, and use their Merc Steath keyboard (which I am currently typing on), their HD4 mousepad, and Ikari mouse (SOOO Comfortable).

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Their headsets?... I stopped reading at that. Sennheiser, etc just blows the typical "gaming" headset out of the water.

I wasn't talking about "Sennheiser, etc" now was I. I was talking about Razer products. I'm a huge Sennheiser fan, I have 3 of their cans, and use my PC350's while gaming. In relation to Razer products, the only thing they can seem to make right are their headsets (which aren't too expensive either).

*@Ripster

The thing is...

Logitech has cheaper products than Razer, that work better, AND...

...they have better booth babes. Try harder Razer.
Edited by H3XUS - 3/30/11 at 4:41pm

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3/30/11 at 4:36pm

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I wasn't talking about "Sennheiser, etc" now was I. I was talking about Razer products. I'm a huge Sennheiser fan, I have 3 of their cans, and use my PC350's while gaming. In relation to Razer products, the only thing they can seem to make right are their headsets (which aren't too expensive either).

No, but you are talking about the relation of other products vs. Razer. Or have I completely misinterpreted you're posts in this thread? You mentioned that Razer had good headphones, well... in relation to Sennheiser at the same price point I would have to disagree. Now with everything else, I have experienced nothing but good things from my DeathAdder and BWU from them.

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3/30/11 at 4:54pm

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Where in those two of my recent large posts, do you see anything other than "Razer" mentioned?

I said for the same price, you can buy something better. Did I mention brands? No.

When I said their headphones were good. I mean good... for a Razer product. Would I buy it myself? Never.

Razer is garbage. Is EVERYONE going to experience issues? No, they won't. However, a majority do, and they shouldn't have to.

There are many factors implemented with a broken product. These implications with other quality brands result in a significantly lower amount of broken products, opposed to Razer with a much higher amount of broken products.

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3/30/11 at 5:11pm

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Razer is garbage. Is EVERYONE going to experience issues? No, they won't. However, a majority do, and they shouldn't have to.

On that quote there;
Prove that majority of people who have bought Razer products have had issues with what they bought.

Yes, I own a lot of Razer gear, and no I'm not going to comment about whether it's good or not. Just show us in a pie graph (I like pies) about the percentage of people who have bought Razer hardware and had issues compared to those who have bought it but have not had issues.

Then do the same for every other company you can think of.

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3/30/11 at 7:01pm

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There seems to be a lot of Razer hate on this forum, I guess its different every where coz on the other forum its Steelseries hate or Logitech hate.

Has anyone ever modded the blue LED on the BWU, I kinda fancy white colors

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3/30/11 at 8:08pm

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I like my Senny HD595s paired with a Gilmore lite and a Squeezebox

However Sennheiser doesn't make a open ear keyboard and the Logitech G series sucks worse than Razer.

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