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Every Bios is different so try to take what people say and apply to your own bios offerings (If your bios even gives you the options, some do not.)

Ram usually defaults to what your CPU bus speed. If its 200x11 then ram is 200, if it's 240X11 then it's 240. Unless you manually tell it to run at another speed.

There should be a setting in the Bios to set your FSB speed. Some Bios will do a multible (5x,4,x,3x,etc) Some will list the corresponding frequency. (1000Mhz, 800Mhz, 600, Mhz, etc... ) Traditionally DDR400 runs 2 channels of 200 MHz. Hence 200Mhz at 5x is 1000Mhz. at 4x is 800Mhz and so on. If you've set your bus speed overclock to 240 then it would be 240Mhz at 5x = 1200Mhz (most cannont attain this speed...wont boot) at 4 x = 960 Mhz (More reasonable).


If you chose 1000Mhz, that would be the 5x FSB multiplier. 800MHz is 4x etc.

So lets say you choose to do an overclock of 240x11 = 2.64Ghz CPU. If your FSB is set to 800Mhz(4x) (Originally a 200MHz clock setting, ) then overclocked would be 240Mhz*4 = 960Mhz.

Memory would be running 2 channels of 240Mhz. or technically DDR 480 instead of just 400.

I am probably going over stuff you already know, but trying to cover basics in one post since you keep posting that you are in the dark.


Now there should be a third setting for your Dram to run it at another Frequency other than your 240Mhz. There are usually several selections from a top speed of 240Mhz downward.

Setting the Mhz of the Dram for anything less than the 240Mhz would be what everyone is calling "running a divider," I believe?

I haven't run a divider on mine yet, so I'm not too posative. I think it hurts your performance slightly, so it's preferable to keep them all running at the same speed otherwise you create a bottleneck.

But do whatever you have to in order to get the Overclock to test stable as it's better to have a stable system than something wreckless.

I'm new at this, and have been lucky enough to get it going without a divider, so didn't need to look into that yet, but hope I helped some.
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Okay I went to OC again and once again, it just sat there and it hanged. I turned RAM down to 166MHz and a 4x multiplier at 2.5-3-3-7 with 213 cpu frequency. I don't understand what I'm doing wrong. As far as I can tell, this should work!
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Is it hanging in XP?
    
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Don't change too many setting at one time. Try one thing at a time and take baby steps. Change as little as possible at one time so you can rule out what is the problem and what is working and not working. You should be able to do 230X11 w/o a problem, unless your Ram not great...then....you may need to play with timings.

Get it to walk, before it runs. I wouldn't do anything to the Ram timings or latancy, leave it at stock or Auto.

Make sure you've locked your PCI (33Mhz)& PCIE(100Mhz) bus. Some MB will change those clocks w/ your CPU clock from what I've read. (not on my MB, but some I guess)

I'd leave the Ram timings at default, leave your CPU mulitplier at default(11x), set HTT to 4x and then up the FSB to 230Mhz.

Test that and then if it fails move on...add voltage in 50mV increments. If it doesn't boot, try to add Voltage to CPU at 50mV intervals until it does boot, but don't go above a total of 1.6V on stock cooling. (some peeps try 1.7, but I wouldn't)
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Hmm.. sorry about the bump thing, I didn't see new posts when I bumped it :\\. I think I may have forgotten to check the second page by accident. Anyways, I went and tried these things (I didn't change any memory timings, these were the only changes):

OCD to 213x22 on a x4 (HTT) and it worked, but would not go past 214x11 (cpu frequency). When I tried to go high, it hanged and then when I went back the old settings didn't work anymore... I checked everything and settings were the same, I thought that to be odd. It will still run on 5x and 212x11 though. I tried turning up vCore in 50mV increments, but to no avail. There wasn't any "auto" or "lock" options on my PCIE, but I kept it at the default 100Mhz. I did not see any options for my PCI, but I ahve never touched it anyways. I'm just so out of ideas...

*Note: The hanging period is right before it checks the IDE drives (it never does check them though). After that it just reboots...
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Can you give the actual model of your motherboard. It's probably one of these:

http://www.giga-byte.com.tw/Support/...ype=Socket+939

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