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I have the Aquacomputer Aquagrafx for the GTX 460. Amazing block in an amazing build quality. But then.. I went for a reference GTX 460 card precisely because I wanted a full-profile cooling block. In Europe, where I am based, the Palit cards were actually the cheapest ones available.

Perhaps you could look at the Aquacomputer Twinplex GTX 460 for the GPU, 90 degrees angled fittings and Enzotech passive heatsinks for the RAM? It will give you worse cooling on the RAM but will cost you about 40 euro less.

My advice would be to stay away from the universal blocks if you can. I had the Koolance GPU-200 on my Radeon HD 5750 and it was very, very hard to mount it properly with only two screws and a strange mechanism to keep it in place. You really need 5 hands to do that yourself and when you try to tighten it, you either tighten it too much and break the corners of the GPU or too little, so it's loose. I had to mount it with two small springs that I had lying around, because the heat would cause it to loosen itself somehow as soon as the computer was started up. Don't know why and it took me a long time to figure out what the problem was. Long story short: please try to stay a way from that kind of blocks.
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I have the Aquacomputer Aquagrafx for the GTX 460. Amazing block in an amazing build quality. But then.. I went for a reference GTX 460 card precisely because I wanted a full-profile cooling block. In Europe, where I am based, the Palit cards were actually the cheapest ones available.

Perhaps you could look at the Aquacomputer Twinplex GTX 460 for the GPU, 90 degrees angled fittings and Enzotech passive heatsinks for the RAM? It will give you worse cooling on the RAM but will cost you about 40 euro less.

My advice would be to stay away from the universal blocks if you can. I had the Koolance GPU-200 on my Radeon HD 5750 and it was very, very hard to mount it properly with only two screws and a strange mechanism to keep it in place. You really need 5 hands to do that yourself and when you try to tighten it, you either tighten it too much and break the corners of the GPU or too little, so it's loose. I had to mount it with two small springs that I had lying around, because the heat would cause it to loosen itself somehow as soon as the computer was started up. Don't know why and it took me a long time to figure out what the problem was. Long story short: please try to stay a way from that kind of blocks.

Thanks for the answer! But now I am a bit disappointed, I have quickly become more and more into this and can see a custom WC setup in my future. I wonder if microcenter will let me exchange these>
post #13 of 21
I have a universal block (0the SW80) on my 5830 and the copper ram covers. I'm not disappointed at all.

I'm on 30c idle compared to 51c idle
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post #14 of 21
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Thanks for the answer! But now I am a bit disappointed, I have quickly become more and more into this and can see a custom WC setup in my future. I wonder if microcenter will let me exchange these>
Try to check if the Aquacomputer Twinplex GPU block for GTX 460 fits. If it does, you could save a lot of money.

Originally Aquacomputer did not want to make full-profile blocks for the GTX 460 because they considered it a midrange card. They changed their minds, but the point is valid. I paid 84 euro for my block and 200 euro for my card. You have to think about if you think it's worth it. OC wise I don't think you can go much longer than you can on air, at least not unless you do the voltage cap tweak and increase the voltage to more than 1.087mv. I think the main advantages of a full profile block is low operating temperature (but who cares if you can't OC more?) and silence. I am in it for the silence.
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I have a universal block (0the SW80) on my 5830 and the copper ram covers. I'm not disappointed at all.

I'm on 30c idle compared to 51c idle
I was not disappointed either as soon as my Koolance GPU-200 was installed and worked, but it was a mess to install it. I had to turn the bracket, which held the block in place, upside down to make room for the standard RAM heatsinks. I had to use my own springs and spacers. All I am saying is: that is what you get when you use an universal block. Additionally it is more risky for the hardware as you (most likely) have to spend more time installing the block. With a standard block it is just 1-2-3 and done.

I would not "recommend" a two screw universal block. My HD 5750 died because of that block.
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post #16 of 21
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Originally Posted by Gnavox View Post
Try to check if the Aquacomputer Twinplex GPU block for GTX 460 fits. If it does, you could save a lot of money.

Originally Aquacomputer did not want to make full-profile blocks for the GTX 460 because they considered it a midrange card. They changed their minds, but the point is valid. I paid 84 euro for my block and 200 euro for my card. You have to think about if you think it's worth it. OC wise I don't think you can go much longer than you can on air, at least not unless you do the voltage cap tweak and increase the voltage to more than 1.087mv. I think the main advantages of a full profile block is low operating temperature (but who cares if you can't OC more?) and silence. I am in it for the silence.
Yeah right now my card fans get up pretty high, and this Palit design isn't the best for heat as it just throws heat around the case.

Meh, I knew I should have just gotten a 480 and then hoped to go sli in the future.. anyone want to trade?
post #17 of 21
I have 2 of the Gainward GTX 460 1gb which I believe are the same as the Palit and the Swiftech MCW80 fits on perfectly (Hole pattern is 2.1" square). I also put some sinks on the memory and power chips and have them running at 930mhz @ 1.1v (Modded bios).

The extra sinks I added don't feel hot so I'm not sure they are actually doing anything except making me feel better so I'm not sure if there is real value in the full cover blocks for the 460. (apart from cosmetic)
The special bios allows the voltage to go to 1.25v and the sinks may get a lot hotter if I pushed the voltage up to that.
I am new to this hobby and I didn't push it that far but others could comment on this.
post #18 of 21
Got curious as to what the exact temps were on the memory sinks so I took the work IR camera home.

As you can see below the ram sinks along the edge of the card where I could get my finger (see the saw teeth near the tubes) are around 45 but the power components hidden behind the wires are getting a lot hotter



Here is another angle to see the power components better. You can see the fins of the sinks I added are between 80 and 90 and some components beside them have hit 100C.



Looks like I need to go back to the old bios with the 1.086V max unless I can get some better heat sinks
post #19 of 21
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I have 2 of the Gainward GTX 460 1gb which I believe are the same as the Palit and the Swiftech MCW80 fits on perfectly (Hole pattern is 2.1" square).
Yep, Palit and Gainward use the same PCB, which has the square G92/58xx hole layout.

Most current GPU only block should work fine on the Palit 460s.

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Looks like I need to go back to the old bios with the 1.086V max unless I can get some better heat sinks
Or add fans to cool the VRMs.
post #20 of 21
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If I am planning to go water in the forseeable future should I consider exchanging these? I just looked and I actually have 4 days left to return them to microcenter. I was thinking of grabbing a 480 that way I can have some room to grow.

Any thoughts?

Edit: Will a 480 be super hot unless it is on water?
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