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Hey guys, I have a question. I've been reading in a lot of places that opty's asre real good overclockers, so I was wondering how they are for gaming? In other words, if I had three similarly priced cpu's (1 amd 64, 1 amd opteron, 1 amd x2), assuming I do overclock, which one would give me the best gaming performance? I have an amd 4000+ right now and i am thinking of getting an x2 or opty in similar price range as a 4000+ (maybe 100$ or so more). Any suggestions?

BTW I'm running my 4000+ from 2400mhz at 2750mhz right now
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Hi and welcome to the Forums ceviker,

For the best gaming performance I would stay right where you are. By the time dual cores are useful for gaming (to any marked extent) AMD will have released a totally new architecture.

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I agree, if I had the money I would have gotten a 4000 SanDiego (still happy with my 3700 though), and since the AM2 isn't as big a step in design change from the 939 I am thinking AMD will release another socket design alot sooner in order to be competitive with Intels Conroe and your current system should hold you over during this battle. What I have read is that dual core cpu technology still has some evolutionary steps to take to become more efficient and software still has a way to go to take better advantage of dual core cpus, this is no slant on whats out there now, and again if money was no object I would build a dual core rig, but its never a good idea to sink big bucks into a system when design changes are around the corner.
    
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i would say go for opty if you have the money. this is what i did and i came from 3700+ sandy. if you like OC'ing, then you gotta love the opty's since they OC like crazy. my 165 can do 2.8 Ghz on 1.35V (1.8 stock). some 170 with 0550 stepping can hit 3.0 Ghz.

on BF2, i feel it is smoother than my 3700+, also now i can hit Alt+tab any time i want in the game. you can open few programs on the back and it won't effect the FPS (this is impossible with single core). if you never try dual core before, you should try it (if money is not a problem)

also, there were some lagging issues with DC, but those problems were fixed with the driver update and hot fix.

i think DC is/will be the trends. if you like to stay on top end, then why not go for DC. you will obsolutely love it.
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Originally Posted by noneed4me2
I agree, if I had the money I would have gotten a 4000 SanDiego (still happy with my 3700 though), and since the AM2 isn't as big a step in design change from the 939 I am thinking AMD will release another socket design alot sooner in order to be competitive with Intels Conroe and your current system should hold you over during this battle. What I have read is that dual core cpu technology still has some evolutionary steps to take to become more efficient and software still has a way to go to take better advantage of dual core cpus, this is no slant on whats out there now, and again if money was no object I would build a dual core rig, but its never a good idea to sink big bucks into a system when design changes are around the corner.
If you are overclocking with clockgen or any other software, you'll find that you'll get much more out of your cpu overclocking with the bios, and the latest steppings of the 3700+ have been overclocking higher than the 4000+ sandys.
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i got my opty dualcore and i dont regret it one bit. by the looks of AM2, i think i will be sticking with 939 for a while, heh.

but....the new intels are crazy though. might have to switch to the dark side.
    
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first of all your system is hot. you do not need to upgrade to a dual core unless you want to multitask alot but for gaming that cpu will hold you until amd releases some new socket other than the am2
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Originally Posted by blazin-asian
i got my opty dualcore and i dont regret it one bit. by the looks of AM2, i think i will be sticking with 939 for a while, heh.

but....the new intels are crazy though. might have to switch to the dark side.
Remember when Intel came out with their 3Ghz P4? Everyone was like **** and rofl at amd...then everyone found out that Intel basically lied and they weren't running that fast. Yeah...Intel are the l33t haxors.

Old school stuff out of the way, I love my X2. I've got it running at 2.64 rock solid on water with a Heatercore. I just ordered a BIX III and can't wait till I get see what I can take it to.

For any amount of multi-tasking the X2 is the way to go. I don't see much difference in gaming comparing an overclocked opty to my X2, but when it comes to everything else my X2 owns.
    
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What most people fail to realize is that the reason Opterons tend to overclock higher is because they have higher cache and memory controller latencies. This is to ensure stability when running in a server. Just as loosening the timings in RAM allows to overclock higher, the higher cache and memory controller latencies allow Opteron CPUs to achieve higher clocks. But higher latencies mean lower performance, and an Athlon 64 actually outperforms the Opteron, clock for clock.

So if youre looking for raw performance, stick with what you have. If you want an OC to brag about, go with the Opteron.
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Originally Posted by erauman
If you are overclocking with clockgen or any other software, you'll find that you'll get much more out of your cpu overclocking with the bios, and the latest steppings of the 3700+ have been overclocking higher than the 4000+ sandys.
Believe me I get this alot, I previously had a P3 system with a Radeon 9550 se on an old intel agp 4x board, and this prefab system with dvd burner and socket 939 pci/e fell into my lap, so I picked it up used on the cheap. The SanDiego was the last money I am willing to sink into this system. I am totally familiar with bios overclock settings and have built a few systems for friends and family, even an SLI nforce rig for my brother who doesn't have a clue how good he's got it but has money to burn. With 4 kids and a mortgage I have to be very selective in my tech spending. I am saving for a dual core crossfire rig as of this moment and considering how little i spent on what i have now, I am actually very happy, and lets face it between software based overclock and no overclock, I'll take something over nothing any day. Plus getting close to stock FX speeds on a POS oem board aint to bad either.
    
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