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I also experience no micro stuttering with my crossfire 6850.
Also people still confuse the New Crossfire that AMD developed with the Old Crossfire/Sli. You dont need to have the exact same clocks on the cards and no it will not downclock to the lower clocked card.
Also you can crossfire 6850 with a 6870 like Matt did and use all of the shaders on both cards. Crossfire has become flexible, If you want to check some proofs about it check the 68xx series overclockers club, I posted some links on it regarding this subject.
Cheers Matt, Im glad you went with the 6870 for your crossfire and you been having a positive experience.

Well i actually had the 6870 first, i just couldn't find a decent 6870 that was actually worth it.. The 6850 was a bargain deal compared to the 6870's.. ($70 less). And i even got the same brand of card.
I've had a decent experience, i'll be seeing more gain in the upcoming months when i pull the plug on upgrading to a processor that can fully use both cards! thumb.gif

Overall i've had a few problems with Crossfire but they've soon been fixed with a new driver release. It's only been newer games with problems! (Which you can expect).

Cheers to you also fellow Crossfire mate! thumb.gif
 
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Well i actually had the 6870 first, i just couldn't find a decent 6870 that was actually worth it.. The 6850 was a bargain deal compared to the 6870's.. ($70 less). And i even got the same brand of card.
I've had a decent experience, i'll be seeing more gain in the upcoming months when i pull the plug on upgrading to a processor that can fully use both cards! thumb.gif
Overall i've had a few problems with Crossfire but they've soon been fixed with a new driver release. It's only been newer games with problems! (Which you can expect).
Cheers to you also fellow Crossfire mate! thumb.gif

Oh sorry tongue.gif I remember that you asked for advice about buying the card on either this thread of the 68xx series overclockers thread.
I also remember posting the crossfire specifications which said the clock wouldnt downclock and all the shaders would be used when using mis-matched crossfire. Dunno if it was in a response to a question of yours.
Dont worry about the problems, every1 has them..
I spent 1 week trying to get my 2nd card working with my 1st card.
It seemed they didnt want to get married inside my case... And the 2nd was also a lazy one. Sleeping all over the place biggrin.gif
Told the 2nd card: No ULPS, bad card! Bad! very bad card!
And my first card I told her this: You either work with her, or you work with another one. But you will work in crossfire like it or not.
Both of them decided to do what I wanted and stopped crashing and giving bsod's... But they are kinda mad at me... they dont overclock in crossfire.
Insta crash when loading games lol tongue.gif
Tried the CMDATIGEN that was talked about here and it does define the 3D memory clocks, but as soon as I run it, it wont leave the 2D clocks.
Ill stay stock with them I guess.
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I'll say i'm pleased with it I simply put this settings first try worked stable on occt and then did this benchie smile.gif doesn't get past 60C at 65% fan
Msi Hawk 6870 twin frozr III
Edit: Felt like making a comparison between stock and overclocked and here are the stock results.
I won't be trying to go any higher as this seems to be the sweet spot for me smile.gif
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Well I got my new 6100 installed and overclocked to 4ghz so I thought of making a nother bench result comparing its result with my previous bench while using the 8120 at 4ghz Also tested to see if the 6870 was running into ecc mode as someone said i lowered the ram by 30mhz and ran it again the difference in test result was minumal so I bumped it back up ..

well here it is the result with a 6core instead of the 8 core thought someone could find the results interesting589
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Wait for me to get home and Ill post my Normal preset results.

Btw could you please do some 4.2Ghz benchmarks with uningine, 3d mark11 etc.
If you do so at 4.2Ghz Ill do them also with 4.2Ghz and post them here to compare.
And dont worry Ill disable crossfire thumb.gif
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@deathskater
Wait for me to get home and Ill post my Normal preset results.
Btw could you please do some 4.2Ghz benchmarks with uningine, 3d mark11 etc.
If you do so at 4.2Ghz Ill do them also with 4.2Ghz and post them here to compare.
And dont worry Ill disable crossfire thumb.gif

I havn't tried to get 4.2ghz but when I get home I'll see what I can do I was trying to go for 4.3ghz but couldnt get it stablewithout getting high voltages but I was reading 4.3 is when it starts being a ***** to get stable ... sooo anyways ill try for 4.2 smile.gif
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Oh sorry tongue.gif I remember that you asked for advice about buying the card on either this thread of the 68xx series overclockers thread.
I also remember posting the crossfire specifications which said the clock wouldnt downclock and all the shaders would be used when using mis-matched crossfire. Dunno if it was in a response to a question of yours.
Dont worry about the problems, every1 has them..
I spent 1 week trying to get my 2nd card working with my 1st card.
It seemed they didnt want to get married inside my case... And the 2nd was also a lazy one. Sleeping all over the place biggrin.gif
Told the 2nd card: No ULPS, bad card! Bad! very bad card!
And my first card I told her this: You either work with her, or you work with another one. But you will work in crossfire like it or not.
Both of them decided to do what I wanted and stopped crashing and giving bsod's... But they are kinda mad at me... they dont overclock in crossfire.
Insta crash when loading games lol tongue.gif
Tried the CMDATIGEN that was talked about here and it does define the 3D memory clocks, but as soon as I run it, it wont leave the 2D clocks.
Ill stay stock with them I guess.

Yeah, i figured! thumb.gif
I love the story about them getting married, sounds like me and the girl. Sometimes we work amazingly (Dirt 3), and sometimes we don't (Skyrim). biggrin.gif
But strangely enough i never had any ULPS problems? I don't know why, unless i try and fix it now? tongue.gif

Heh, i'll do it anyway. They'll still both downclock to the 150mhz or whatever and not run 930/1000 all the time?

P.S I'm finding it very hard to overclock with heat issues alone.. I can't touch the top card. I have to downclock it in summer.. Otherwise it passes the magical 74c! mad.gif

Hopefully it's just the thermal paste thats dried out! And i can gain 10c with a proper application! thumb.gif

EDIT: I've had no problems so far, but i know that it voids my warranty. Hopefully they won't be able to tell! thumb.gif

What thermal paste should i use? At the moment i can get AS5/The stock 212+ compound (the good stuff). I only have half a tube of AS5 and i need to do 2 cards.. I'd rather do them in the same paste to be honest! rolleyes.gif

Might even buy something better, i dunno. I'd rather do this for nothing! tongue.gif
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Yeah, i figured! thumb.gif
I love the story about them getting married, sounds like me and the girl. Sometimes we work amazingly (Dirt 3), and sometimes we don't (Skyrim). biggrin.gif
But strangely enough i never had any ULPS problems? I don't know why, unless i try and fix it now? tongue.gif
Heh, i'll do it anyway. They'll still both downclock to the 150mhz or whatever and not run 930/1000 all the time?
P.S I'm finding it very hard to overclock with heat issues alone.. I can't touch the top card. I have to downclock it in summer.. Otherwise it passes the magical 74c! mad.gif
Hopefully it's just the thermal paste thats dried out! And i can gain 10c with a proper application! thumb.gif
EDIT: I've had no problems so far, but i know that it voids my warranty. Hopefully they won't be able to tell! thumb.gif
What thermal paste should i use? At the moment i can get AS5/The stock 212+ compound (the good stuff). I only have half a tube of AS5 and i need to do 2 cards.. I'd rather do them in the same paste to be honest! rolleyes.gif
Might even buy something better, i dunno. I'd rather do this for nothing! tongue.gif

Yes they will still downclock to their 2D clocks, the ULPS thingie the only thing it does is actually completely deactivates one of your cards(2nd) when it is not being used.
It is great to save power, if it works properly.
With me it never worked since my cards dont like each other tongue.gif
Yea Skyrim also gives my cards a hard time, but it isnt the cards fault.
With crossfire disabled it only uses 50% of my main 6850... Enabled uses 20% on both wth.gif
And I found that installing mods only made the performance worse...
Well you can replace the TIM on your card, and depending on your warranty it can still be within warranty.
Thats the only thing my country has good, if something is broke we take it to where we bought it, they test it... And if they see the problem they simply swap it for a BNIB.
Dunno how it is with Amazon.co.uk tho, started buying stuff from there and havent had the need to start an RMA with them..
About the TIM use w,e you think it is best and dont apply too much TIM, just enough to make contact on the HS and the chip, also clean the HS and the chip with Alcohol and dont touch it with your fingers.
If you manage to do all this you successfully applied TIM correctly thumb.gif

About the GPU temps I was also wondering if they needed a wedding dress, was thinking on buying an accelero cooler for them, but then I thought: So I bought 2 cards which costed me 300 euros and I will buy the equivalent to 100 euros just to cool them with a very high chance if they being cooler but not getting any performance boost? Aw hell no. No wedding clothing for them biggrin.gif
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Yes they will still downclock to their 2D clocks, the ULPS thingie the only thing it does is actually completely deactivates one of your cards(2nd) when it is not being used.
It is great to save power, if it works properly.
With me it never worked since my cards dont like each other tongue.gif
Yea Skyrim also gives my cards a hard time, but it isnt the cards fault.
With crossfire disabled it only uses 50% of my main 6850... Enabled uses 20% on both wth.gif
And I found that installing mods only made the performance worse...
Well you can replace the TIM on your card, and depending on your warranty it can still be within warranty.
Thats the only thing my country has good, if something is broke we take it to where we bought it, they test it... And if they see the problem they simply swap it for a BNIB.
Dunno how it is with Amazon.co.uk tho, started buying stuff from there and havent had the need to start an RMA with them..
About the TIM use w,e you think it is best and dont apply too much TIM, just enough to make contact on the HS and the chip, also clean the HS and the chip with Alcohol and dont touch it with your fingers.
If you manage to do all this you successfully applied TIM correctly thumb.gif
About the GPU temps I was also wondering if they needed a wedding dress, was thinking on buying an accelero cooler for them, but then I thought: So I bought 2 cards which costed me 300 euros and I will buy the equivalent to 100 euros just to cool them with a very high chance if they being cooler but not getting any performance boost? Aw hell no. No wedding clothing for them biggrin.gif

I know how to do GPU/CPU thermal paste! I've done a few in the past year! thumb.gif

Yeah, i know. Skyrim is quite terrible i know it's not their fault. It's a terrible console port..

I contacted MSI and they said that i'd be voiding my warranty, but if anything goes wrong i'll just get some thermal pads and then send it in! thumb.gif

And yes, i was looking at wedding dress' too! I was considering just getting one for the top card.. Still that's $40-$50.. I'd have to get the same for both i think. If i'm going as far as spending $50 on one, i may as well spend $100 on both. The main problem at the moment is that mine aren't reference..

EDIT: Just changed it, will test later tonight! thumb.gif
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I know how to do GPU/CPU thermal paste! I've done a few in the past year! thumb.gif

Yeah, i know. Skyrim is quite terrible i know it's not their fault. It's a terrible console port..

I contacted MSI and they said that i'd be voiding my warranty, but if anything goes wrong i'll just get some thermal pads and then send it in! thumb.gif

And yes, i was looking at wedding dress' too! I was considering just getting one for the top card.. Still that's $40-$50.. I'd have to get the same for both i think. If i'm going as far as spending $50 on one, i may as well spend $100 on both. The main problem at the moment is that mine aren't reference..

EDIT: Just changed it, will test later tonight! thumb.gif

Did you update your game (Skyrim) to the latest patch (or at least 1.3.1.0)? Did you use the Skyboost (it seems it's not anymore required with the latest 1.4)? Why don't you try (once at least) to synchronise settings with the AB (lowering the clocks of the 6870 if necessary) using a volt. that would be good for both vga's. thumb.gif

I'm telling you all this because mine runs like hell with catalyst 12.2 preview (all maxed out and a lot of hd texture FXAA injectors and mods) getting a 100% constantly 60fps with a gpu load (both cards) of 35-65% rolleyes.gif
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