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Downloaded the beta driver but game me some error and wont install.

Download was good to.

Guess Ill have to wait until they finalize
   
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Tokkan, that's so true reguarding the available video solutions that are available now. Although I'm very happy with my x-fire 6850/6870 solution, I do know that 2-7770's will get better frame rates in certain situations even though they have far less stream processors. My friend has a gigabyte 970a-d3 with a phenom II 965 and dual 7770's and his system gets excellent frame rates on his 60" hdtv playing Battlefield 3 and MW4. It just seems that the sapphire 7770's that he has really work well together because he had a 6970 before that and it didn't nearly compare to the x-fire setup. Personally, though I don't think I'll go to 7000 series or newer until AMD has PCI-E gen 3 available. As far as your driver issues, I can't comment as luckily i haven't had any AMD driver issues yet (knock on wood) besides when I first built my fx-8120 system and I think those troubles were related to the fx. Good luck!!
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I sold my 7750 and 6850 to get my current 6970. I'm happy with it, but I very much miss my 6850. sad-smiley-002.gif
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I sold my 7750 and 6850 to get my current 6970. I'm happy with it, but I very much miss my 6850. sad-smiley-002.gif

I understand what you mean, I'd surely miss mine as well, especially the way they overclock and just plain perform. I might just be lucky and have a 6850 and 6870 that are both gem's but I personally think the "Barts" gpu's are just a great performer. I had a Nvidia before them (only due to finances) that I got for cheap but that GTX460 didn't hold a candle to my Sapphire 6870. The quality of the imaging and the tessalation blew me away and that 460 was sold for 50 bucks quick. Haven't used them b4 or since. Am currently in the process of putting h2o pump/blocks on both cards and really see how they perform vs. temps.
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Tokkan, that's so true reguarding the available video solutions that are available now. Although I'm very happy with my x-fire 6850/6870 solution, I do know that 2-7770's will get better frame rates in certain situations even though they have far less stream processors. My friend has a gigabyte 970a-d3 with a phenom II 965 and dual 7770's and his system gets excellent frame rates on his 60" hdtv playing Battlefield 3 and MW4. It just seems that the sapphire 7770's that he has really work well together because he had a 6970 before that and it didn't nearly compare to the x-fire setup. Personally, though I don't think I'll go to 7000 series or newer until AMD has PCI-E gen 3 available. As far as your driver issues, I can't comment as luckily i haven't had any AMD driver issues yet (knock on wood) besides when I first built my fx-8120 system and I think those troubles were related to the fx. Good luck!!

It's a beta driver and it seems to be common with people, my cards start randomly drop/increase their clocks and flickers my screen alot if I try to overclock them, so I'm letting them with no overclock for now.

I also opened both of my Sapphire cards and was amazed at the quality of one and the garbage that the other one was.
Looking at the components of my best clocking 6850, 930Mhz stock voltage and it's capable of 1Ghz easily but I only went that far for some bench's while the bad clocking 6850 need's 1.2 for 900Mhz and it stops working if I pass the 1.2v mark.
No video output etc.

Also I think I should RMA the card's, whenever I try to use the good clocking card as my main card they don't get full PCIe speed's... one gets 1x and the other 4x.
If I switch them arround I get full 16x-16x not a motherboard issue.

Edit: I got a pic taken with my phone, hopefully its good enough for you guys to see.
Whats the best clocking card of those two? Top one or the bottom one?
Also one of the chip's is made in Taiwan and the other in China, what's made in China and whats made in Taiwan?thumb.gif

1st question shouldnt be hard but the 2nd might be tricky tongue.gif

Edited by Tokkan - 10/31/12 at 5:47am
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Originally Posted by oldcompgeek View Post

Tokkan, that's so true reguarding the available video solutions that are available now. Although I'm very happy with my x-fire 6850/6870 solution, I do know that 2-7770's will get better frame rates in certain situations even though they have far less stream processors. My friend has a gigabyte 970a-d3 with a phenom II 965 and dual 7770's and his system gets excellent frame rates on his 60" hdtv playing Battlefield 3 and MW4. It just seems that the sapphire 7770's that he has really work well together because he had a 6970 before that and it didn't nearly compare to the x-fire setup. Personally, though I don't think I'll go to 7000 series or newer until AMD has PCI-E gen 3 available. As far as your driver issues, I can't comment as luckily i haven't had any AMD driver issues yet (knock on wood) besides when I first built my fx-8120 system and I think those troubles were related to the fx. Good luck!!

It's a beta driver and it seems to be common with people, my cards start randomly drop/increase their clocks and flickers my screen alot if I try to overclock them, so I'm letting them with no overclock for now.

I also opened both of my Sapphire cards and was amazed at the quality of one and the garbage that the other one was.
Looking at the components of my best clocking 6850, 930Mhz stock voltage and it's capable of 1Ghz easily but I only went that far for some bench's while the bad clocking 6850 need's 1.2 for 900Mhz and it stops working if I pass the 1.2v mark.
No video output etc.

Also I think I should RMA the card's, whenever I try to use the good clocking card as my main card they don't get full PCIe speed's... one gets 1x and the other 4x.
If I switch them arround I get full 16x-16x not a motherboard issue.

Edit: I got a pic taken with my phone, hopefully its good enough for you guys to see.
Whats the best clocking card of those two? Top one or the bottom one?
Also one of the chip's is made in Taiwan and the other in China, what's made in China and whats made in Taiwan?thumb.gif

1st question shouldnt be hard but the 2nd might be tricky tongue.gif

I think it's the bottom one that I had. I remember the heatsink being skinny like that. I had it clocked to a ghz for gaming and folded at 1030 @ 1.3v with an Antec 620 as the cooler.
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Tokkan, that's so true reguarding the available video solutions that are available now. Although I'm very happy with my x-fire 6850/6870 solution, I do know that 2-7770's will get better frame rates in certain situations even though they have far less stream processors. My friend has a gigabyte 970a-d3 with a phenom II 965 and dual 7770's and his system gets excellent frame rates on his 60" hdtv playing Battlefield 3 and MW4. It just seems that the sapphire 7770's that he has really work well together because he had a 6970 before that and it didn't nearly compare to the x-fire setup. Personally, though I don't think I'll go to 7000 series or newer until AMD has PCI-E gen 3 available. As far as your driver issues, I can't comment as luckily i haven't had any AMD driver issues yet (knock on wood) besides when I first built my fx-8120 system and I think those troubles were related to the fx. Good luck!!

It's a beta driver and it seems to be common with people, my cards start randomly drop/increase their clocks and flickers my screen alot if I try to overclock them, so I'm letting them with no overclock for now.

I also opened both of my Sapphire cards and was amazed at the quality of one and the garbage that the other one was.
Looking at the components of my best clocking 6850, 930Mhz stock voltage and it's capable of 1Ghz easily but I only went that far for some bench's while the bad clocking 6850 need's 1.2 for 900Mhz and it stops working if I pass the 1.2v mark.
No video output etc.

Also I think I should RMA the card's, whenever I try to use the good clocking card as my main card they don't get full PCIe speed's... one gets 1x and the other 4x.
If I switch them arround I get full 16x-16x not a motherboard issue.

Edit: I got a pic taken with my phone, hopefully its good enough for you guys to see.
Whats the best clocking card of those two? Top one or the bottom one?
Also one of the chip's is made in Taiwan and the other in China, what's made in China and whats made in Taiwan?thumb.gif

1st question shouldnt be hard but the 2nd might be tricky tongue.gif

I think it's the bottom one that I had. I remember the heatsink being skinny like that. I had it clocked to a ghz for gaming and folded at 1030 @ 1.3v with an Antec 620 as the cooler.

 

the bottom one with the skinny heatsink on the VRM's looks like the reference one which most likely has voltage unlocked and slightly better GPU itself. AMD is pretty good for supplying top-end parts on release, then as the life of a product goes on, the lower quality silicon comes out.
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the bottom one with the skinny heatsink on the VRM's looks like the reference one which most likely has voltage unlocked and slightly better GPU itself. AMD is pretty good for supplying top-end parts on release, then as the life of a product goes on, the lower quality silicon comes out.

Yap you got it right, the bottom one is the decent one.
I had so much fun with it and it promised so much that I decided to go crossfire with them... learned my lesson.
Even tho its a crap picture you can see the quality difference in both boards.

The voltage in the crap/more recent HD6850 is locked in everything except Sapphire Trixx, but Trixx has troubles accessing it if it is the secondary card, needs to be the main card.
Most of the stuff that I say about my pair of HD6850 might not make sense, I admit it. But it's what happens...
The crap card has to be the main card else crossfire won't work properly nor will my PCIe slots give 16x speed, I tested the PCIe slots alone and they work fine.
With ulps disabled I can't overvolt the recent card if it is working as a slave card, it need's to be the main card else my pc will shutdown everytime I change voltages and everytime I stress them with any kind of overclock, I did that with 790Mhz, 15Mhz above the stock core...

Any1 wanna buy it from me? tongue.gif
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I think it's the bottom one that I had. I remember the heatsink being skinny like that. I had it clocked to a ghz for gaming and folded at 1030 @ 1.3v with an Antec 620 as the cooler.

I had it at 1Ghz with 1.3v but the temperatures would become an issue since the stock cooler couldn't handle it, so I played it safe with 920/1150 at stock voltage.
Was expecting of reaching arround the same values when I decided to crossfire but far from that, the crap card has its own will.
Edited by Tokkan - 10/31/12 at 7:12am
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It's a beta driver and it seems to be common with people, my cards start randomly drop/increase their clocks and flickers my screen alot if I try to overclock them, so I'm letting them with no overclock for now.
I also opened both of my Sapphire cards and was amazed at the quality of one and the garbage that the other one was.
Looking at the components of my best clocking 6850, 930Mhz stock voltage and it's capable of 1Ghz easily but I only went that far for some bench's while the bad clocking 6850 need's 1.2 for 900Mhz and it stops working if I pass the 1.2v mark.
No video output etc.
Also I think I should RMA the card's, whenever I try to use the good clocking card as my main card they don't get full PCIe speed's... one gets 1x and the other 4x.
If I switch them arround I get full 16x-16x not a motherboard issue.
Edit: I got a pic taken with my phone, hopefully its good enough for you guys to see.
Whats the best clocking card of those two? Top one or the bottom one?
Also one of the chip's is made in Taiwan and the other in China, what's made in China and whats made in Taiwan?thumb.gif
1st question shouldnt be hard but the 2nd might be tricky tongue.gif

The top card looks almost EXACTLY like my sapphire 6870 1ghz card (it's not a reference card) and it's an oc'n beast. I personally haven't seen one that looks like the bottom card, the cap and vrm spacing looks wierd.
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I would think the VRM's would cool better in the bottom one compared to top. Because of how it's lined up instead of bunched together.
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