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Originally Posted by 10acjed;12553184 
Its probably the settings in HWMonitor, if your TJ max is set differently then the others it will read a different temp with some programs...

It reads mine the same as core temp & everest, its HWMonitor Pro v1.08.0

If it was because of TjMax setting then it should constantly show more or less than Core Temp, now it shows higher temps than Core Temp when temperature is low and lower temps when temperature is high.
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TjMax would be why the 100% load temp is out relative to all the others.
Inaccurate temperature gradient would be why idle temp is out relative to all the others.

100% load temp is not totally accurate anyway, but idle temps are even more inaccurate.

Most people can't be bothered reading the thread that this quote comes from, but if you can be bothered, then you'll get some idea of why "temps" are inaccurate. They are not measured, but inferred.
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Here's the formula that all software uses:

Reported Temperature = TJMax - Digital Thermal Sensor reading

All software reads the same data from the same on chip digital thermal sensors. The disagreement is in TJMax. RealTemp and Core Temp assume that value is 100C and other software assumes that value is 95C so RT and CT will always report a temperature 5C higher than the other programs.

Which value is correct? The truth is that there is no documented correct value. All software is guessing.

The only documentation ever published by Intel calls this value TJ target and they've said that this is not a fixed value. It can and does vary from one CPU to the next with the same model number and in my testing it also varies from core to core on the same CPU. Your core 1 reading much lower than the other 3 is a good indication of that.


These sensors are designed for thermal throttling and thermal shut down control and are accurate enough for those purposes. For any other purpose like accurate temperature reporting, the 45nm Core 2 Duo/Quad sensors are crap with a long list of known issues. 100% accurate temperatures from these undocumented sensors from idle to TJMax is simply not possible.

If you want RealTemp and Core Temp to low ball your temperature readings like the other programs are doing then set TJMax to 95 instead of 100.

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I do know how TJ Max works and it is set to 100 C in HWMonitor, Core Temp and RealTemp. With i7-950 HWMonitor shows different temps than other programs, with Q9550 all three programs show same temps.
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I do know how TJ Max works and it is set to 100 C in HWMonitor, Core Temp and RealTemp. With i7-950 HWMonitor shows different temps than other programs, with Q9550 all three programs show same temps.

Must be reading wrong then if its the only one reading those temps, if other programs show a different temp and are all consistent then I would use them to monitor temps.


I know HWMonitor Pro, core temp and everest all read the same temps on my 950...
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Clocked and stable for the love of god!!!! Was a nightmare as I am still learning lol...Please add me =) HT is on as well. Peak temps I saw were 76C hours into prime but generally stay @ 74C now on cores 1&2

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Woah forgot to add my batch number! my bad.
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I've got myself a new 950 batch/fpo # 3042A736 to play with, it runs hotter than my Ex-950 at the same vcore setting, but it can OC to the same speed at lower vcore. At stock speed, though, its vcore is only 1.176v whereas the Ex was at much higher vcore (don't remember the actual vcore anymore but I think it was 1.237v or something). My Ex ran 21x205 (4.315Ghz) with 1.50v but my current one can do it with only 1.40v, but temp goes way high so I didn't do too much stress testing.
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Originally Posted by jamesschmidt82;12557695 
Clocked and stable for the love of god!!!! Was a nightmare as I am still learning lol...Please add me =) HT is on as well. Peak temps I saw were 76C hours into prime but generally stay @ 74C now on cores 1&2

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What kind of load volts/temp are you guys getting at load with Prime95 at 4.2?

Just curious.. I am pretty sure I can get mine stable at 4.24 with 1.39v load, but temps were hitting 79c after an hour+ of prime95 blend.
Certain parts of the blend test create more heat then others. I can see temps around 70 - 72c for certain tests, then another will push it to 79c, but that seemed to be the max..
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77C, at about, or less than, 23C ambient....

Woops 4.2, I quoted 4.3, err
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