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i tried reseating it and crap
i need more voltages now O.o"
this chip really blows
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Originally Posted by XtachiX View Post
i tried reseating it and crap
i need more voltages now O.o"
this chip really blows
That suggests it is a worse seat than it had ....which tim?
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Hmmmm then two GTX580's might be OK with my 850W HX...
Based on what I saw over on Tom's Hardware it looks like about 500 - 550Watts for a single 580 fully loaded using this test setup. They say about 200 to 250w (depending on how many monitors are attached) for just the 580 so even a pair should be fine on your 850 since it is a fairly strong design.


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Penryn, found the Thermaltake PSU calculator.

http://www.thermaltake.outervision.com/Power

Put in everything on my rig and it said I needed 612W. PSU probably adequate then.
Thanks. i got 594 recommended. I may try a reseat also as I think my temps are still kinda high for a WC setup. I would like to shave off another 5C or so.
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That suggests it is a worse seat than it had ....which tim?
AS-5
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Takes a while to cure..200hours.. I use MX3 or MX2..no curetime

AS5 temp drops during cure time
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Takes a while to cure..200hours.. I use MX3 or MX2..no curetime

AS5 temp drops during cure time
I am idling at 35C with AS5. Not too shabby~
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It can be a comforting sight but means little given the way it is measured. I'm afraid the only temperature worth paying attention to is full load, and even that will not be entirely accurate, but at least it shows how close to throttling one is.



Reported Temperature = TJMax minus the Digital Thermal Sensor reading

TJMax is said to be 100. Is this correct? The truth is that there is no documented correct value. All software is guessing.

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The only documentation ever published by Intel calls this value TJ target and they've said that this is not a fixed value. It can and does vary from one CPU to the next with the same model number and in my testing it also varies from core to core on the same CPU. Your core 1 reading much lower than the other 3 is a good indication of that.

These sensors are designed for thermal throttling and thermal shut down control and are accurate enough for those purposes. For any other purpose like accurate temperature reporting, the 45nm Core 2 Duo/Quad sensors are crap with a long list of known issues. 100% accurate temperatures from these undocumented sensors from idle to TJMax is simply not possible.
That's from UncleWeb on Xtremesystems who wrote RealTemp
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=179044
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^^ That is why I try to stay well below the TJ max. I have seen more & more people pushing the envelope, which is a good thing for all of us because we get to see if there will be any ill effects from it.

Personally I like to put my thermal threshold right around 75c full load (prime95 or OCCT) and 80c IBT.

If I can keep it lower even better.

If you folks have some extra time I highly recommend browsing through the Data Sheets. Specifically the "Electrical Specifications" and "Thermal Specifications" they provide all the technical data about these cpu's.

http://download.intel.com/design/processor/datashts/320834.pdf


Also hang onto this link for future cpu upgrades. Research a bit and find out the facts.

http://ark.intel.com/ follow the link to the series of cpu, then click the one yo want and on the right side you will see a link for Data Sheets.
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