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On water? I know dice or ln2 would help. Arrrr, get 'em to submit anyway..

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1822192 232.67

Only just thought to drop the core number. Wasn't worth much.
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Is the BCLK motherboard limited or cpu?

From what I read in the design sheets the BCLK is on chip....


Quote:
Processor Clocking (BCLK_DP, BCLK_DN)
The processor core, Intel QPI, and integrated memory controller frequencies are
generated from BCLK_DP and BCLK_DN. Unlike previous processors based on front side
bus architecture, there is no direct link between core frequency and Intel QPI link
frequency (such as, no core frequency to Intel QPI multiplier). The processor maximum
core frequency, Intel QPI link frequency and integrated memory controller frequency,
are set during manufacturing. It is possible to override the processor core frequency
setting using software. This permits operation at lower core frequencies than the
factory set maximum core frequency.
The processor’s maximum non-turbo core frequency is configured during power-on
reset by using values stored internally during manufacturing. The stored value sets the
highest core multiplier at which the particular processor can operate. If lower max nonturbo
speeds are desired, the appropriate ratio can be configured using the
CLOCK_FLEX_MAX MSR.
The processor uses differential clocks (BCLK_DP, BCLK_DN). Clock multiplying within
the processor is provided by the internal phase locked loop (PLL), which requires a
constant frequency BCLK_DP, BCLK_DN input, with exceptions for spread spectrum
clocking. The processor core frequency is determined by multiplying the ratio by
133 MHz.
Intel Data Sheet i7-900 series

Im not the sharpest tool in the shed tho, so alot of this stuff may as well be written in chinese.
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BCLK is determined by the MOBO just like FSB was determined on 775 platforms.
Some are good and some are EVGA JK
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I guess UD3R being cheaper, something had to suffer...
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LOL! Cheater had HT turned off! LOL! Well, it saves 11c average at high clocks so I guess every little bit helps...

That spec sheet was an interesting read, especially the temperature control portion and max case temperature testing spec. I wish Intel would have deisgned the registers so the factory could provide an absolute value to work from, but that would mean retesting and reprogramming "after" the heat spreader was installed.

I'm sure Intel is using this method to avoid excess testing, production time, costs, etc. during manufacturing. Sooo, that brings to mind several methods one could use on a CPU by CPU basis to calibrate reported vs. actual temps without any removals-insertions required... and then one could calibrate Core Temp (for instance) to give one a clearer picture of absolute temperatures.

It would have been nice if they had given us access to the factory calibrated offset to TM1, TM2, and PROCHOT activation; then we could have done a more accutate correlation -even if it's non-linear- to the maximum SOA peak.

The more data the better in machine control and a CPU is just another machine. From what I read, Core Temp using a 100c Tj-max is a general method to standardize and really means not much. We could just as easily say 75c or 125c since all we really get is distance to Tj max WITHOUT reference to actual temperature OR to TM1,TM2,PROCHOT. I do suspect though that because of the tight process controls that the REAL vs. Calculated temps vs Tj max must be within 10%... still, one likes to know for sure in absolute terms.

Sigh, this is stuff I used to do all the time too... on a component by component basis in high powered motion/motor control systems and other systems I designed...

Anyway, best to just put it in my "future things to mess with maybe someday" file...

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You're allowed to turn HT off. Saves heat, and gets you a bit further....
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Yeah, thats just a cpu-z run for Boints... You do what you can to crank it out...


Here is the #1 score for a i7-950 http://hwbot.org/community/submissio...950_5817.2_mhz BenchZoner did 5817 HT on with a X58 Classy....

I need a new board and a nice pot...
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Everything you can do besides cheat to grab some extra points, go for it. That's why I keep about 6 bench OS's on hand. Each one is good at a certian bench over another.

Tex, I understand what you are saying but I am not sure they could get an absolute.
With prodution levels being so high and spreed out amoung differant regions of the world I think you get too many variables.
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Yup, it would cost a lot to literally "calibrate" each CPU to a real world standard, no doubt about that!

BTW, did ya'll notice the i7-995x is out?

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

Pretty soon, looks like we will have an i7-1100x to compete with the Phenom II X6 1100T...

LOL! LOL!

Also looks like Intel is serious about have the worlds first "production" 4GHz processor... just in time for the Z68 intro too... and Bulldozer... gosh what a year this is going to be!

They have proven it can be done, i7-2600K is a monster of a little chip!


Edited by Tex1954 - 5/17/11 at 5:51am
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