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I have never overclocked a CPU before and I just recently overclocked my vid card for the first time. I've been doing a lot of research..and I'm finally at a point where I am pretty much stuck on how to overclock my processor.

I have:
mobo> MSI K7N2, Nforce 2.
cpu> AMD Athlon XP 3200+ Barton 2.2ghz processor.
psu> Enermax whisper II 460w PSU.
cooling> all air, 2 fans on PSU, exhaust 80mm on top, exhaust 120mm rear, intake 80mm side, intake 80mm front. (overclocked vid card core never goes over 60C on 3dmark05)

I tried going into the bios to just bump up the multiplier a bit but it seems my CPU is locked on the hardware level ( I assume anyway ) because when I push the multiplier up on the BIOS, I go into windows, check CPU-Z and it still shows the multiplier as the stock 11x and the CPU still shows as 2200mhz. I am incredibly reluctant to try surgery on my CPU, it's my only processor and I'm a broke college student just looking for a few more FPS =D Any suggestions on what else I can do? My RAM isn't too good, I have 2x 256mb of samsung 3-3-3-8 but then this generic heat-sinked 1 gb stick of 3-4-4-8 so it all runs at that (all pc3200 DDR). So..I know I can raise my FSB, but what does that do? I also know I dont want to open up my CPU and start burning lines in it. Any suggestions?
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post #2 of 7
bump up the FSB slooowly, when you hit a brick; up the voltage a bit.

There's tonnes of post here dude, just look under the sub-headings.
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Well wont pushing up the FSB affect my RAM too? If I am to push the FSB up slowly...I have to lock my AGP and PCI or something on the mobo dont I? And I don't have the best RAM...would it be good if I changed my FSB/DRAM ratio # if I were going to push that number up? Like...if I went to 420 FSB I could put ym FSB/DRAM Ratio to 6:5 and it would keep my RAM at 3200 or so? I really don't know most of the logistics to this, as I am just getting started.
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Originally Posted by ccolgan
I have never overclocked a CPU before and I just recently overclocked my vid card for the first time. I've been doing a lot of research..and I'm finally at a point where I am pretty much stuck on how to overclock my processor.

I have:
mobo> MSI K7N2, Nforce 2.
cpu> AMD Athlon XP 3200+ Barton 2.2ghz processor.
psu> Enermax whisper II 460w PSU.
cooling> all air, 2 fans on PSU, exhaust 80mm on top, exhaust 120mm rear, intake 80mm side, intake 80mm front. (overclocked vid card core never goes over 60C on 3dmark05)

I tried going into the bios to just bump up the multiplier a bit but it seems my CPU is locked on the hardware level ( I assume anyway ) because when I push the multiplier up on the BIOS, I go into windows, check CPU-Z and it still shows the multiplier as the stock 11x and the CPU still shows as 2200mhz. I am incredibly reluctant to try surgery on my CPU, it's my only processor and I'm a broke college student just looking for a few more FPS =D Any suggestions on what else I can do? My RAM isn't too good, I have 2x 256mb of samsung 3-3-3-8 but then this generic heat-sinked 1 gb stick of 3-4-4-8 so it all runs at that (all pc3200 DDR). So..I know I can raise my FSB, but what does that do? I also know I dont want to open up my CPU and start burning lines in it. Any suggestions?
Okay so you got a locked Barton at x11..this you can't change.

The nf2 has an AGP/PCI lock ( you should be able to change if you wish in BIOS but don't)

Your RAM is going to be an issue for you. The best configuration is to have two modules operation in dual channel. For this you really need two of the same speed and capacity and quality, from the same batch is the preference here.I see you have 2x512Mb and 1 x 1024Mb. Try and obtain another 1024Mb module the same as the one you have or purchase 2 x 512Mb modules of DDR400 with the best timmings you can 2-2-2-5 being the best here TCCD IC's would be one of the better choices.

The XP320000+ 400fsb Bartons are not the best overclockers out there but you should be able to get something out of your system.

I suggest for overclocking purposes remove the 1024Mb module and set the 2x256MB in dual channel.

Keep the fsb/DRAM ratio at 1:1 for now as this will yield the better system performance. You can always set a divider later.

Try the Vcore pushed up to 1.75v (watch your CPU temperatures here stay below 50°C, if getting high look at an upgrade of the heatsink/fan).
Set your fsb to 205MHz and try that, do a quick check after boot with super PI 32M calculation.
If you are good and stable there go back into the BIOS and try it at 210MHz and so forth but I think that 215-220MHz will be your limit here.


Hope this get's you started. Check out this guide/overview by one of our member's..here..to help you along.


cheers and welcome too !
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post #5 of 7
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alright thanks. I am assuming you suggest I leave that extra 1 gig of RAM out? I would think that I might be better off on the whole keeping my extra gig of RAM than getting a few extra mhz out of my processor...not sure tho. I really need that RAM for games like oblivion I would think. I wish I had known more about it when I bought it...cuz that RAM was cheap and isn't very nice on the timings.

I'll experiment with this stuff but so far my system with the OC'd video card seems to be running quite well.
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post #6 of 7
No just take it out whilst seeing what sort of overclock you can get.

Once you have found your max, drop it back in and try again from 200MHz with all your RAM modules in. Obviously you are going to neeed to change the timmings and maybe have to run a divider but that will depend how high your fsb goes.
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post #7 of 7
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would it be safe for me to just up the FSB (slowly) and get maybe a 100-200mhz increase in my processor without needing to fiddle with the RAM? Or if I just went ahead and increased the FSB would my RAM not be able to handle it?
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