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It's not that good compared to later weapons at all.
If first impressions(6 kills) are anything to go by, the VS VAL is an absolute beast. It has seemingly much lower recoil than the P90, but retains the high as hell fire rate.
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Personally I think the apparent OPness of the UMP is down to a combination of high ROF and crummy hit registration, not just the gun itself.
UMP has a fire rate of 600RPM. That is quite low, which is why it is so effective in every scenario. It has medium damage, and very high accuracy due to low fire rate, and three firing options. These are the same reasons why UMP45 was used by everyone in MW2. And i would know, i played that game more than 15d. By no means is it OP, but it is widely used due to its effectiveness in almost any scenario. Anyone who uses a UMP would be destroyed in medium to close range by a high fire rate gun, such as the VS VAL. So IMO, it is not OP and people are complaining because it is highly adaptable. Therefore, it is widely used.
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I'm getting killed by it in too many completely different scenarios. It doesn't appear to have a weakness. I'm getting killed at range whenever I've already got the first shots in etc. I mean, I'm seeing teams where every player who has unlocked it is using it, with the exception of Recons. I don't know if that is right.
Above. Im a recon, and the UMP is my most used gun. Overall, i have more sniper kills though.
Edited by nawon72 - 10/5/11 at 2:46am
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Do you know if you will keep your current beta ranks and unlocks on the release? or will be everything "wiped out"?
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Do you know if you will keep your current beta ranks and unlocks on the release? or will be everything "wiped out"?
No Alpha / Beta everr keeps the unlocks everything will be wiped
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Do you know if you will keep your current beta ranks and unlocks on the release? or will be everything "wiped out"?
everything will be wiped out

EDIT: Source: http://www.battlefield.com/battlefield3/1/beta 3rd column under BF3 Beta FAQ
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Would love to Fraps a weapons test here if people want to be my test dummy. Like set it to single shot and fire the UMP, the A-91, the M4A1, the AEK and the G36C and see if the UMP really is just that good.

Lune what's your screen name on BL?
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Would love to Fraps a weapons test here if people want to be my test dummy. Like set it to single shot and fire the UMP, the A-91, the M4A1, the AEK and the G36C and see if the UMP really is just that good.

Lune what's your screen name on BL?
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Being a test dummy is fun. Stats won't be kept, no shame in it.
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Ah cool~ yeah I'm sending you messages. XD lol

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Being a test dummy is fun. Stats won't be kept, no shame in it.
Yeah, just want to put some things to rest and see for real in a clinical environment if there's something fishy about the UMP.
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Would love to Fraps a weapons test here if people want to be my test dummy. Like set it to single shot and fire the UMP, the A-91, the M4A1, the AEK and the G36C and see if the UMP really is just that good.

Lune what's your screen name on BL?
Checkout my post first:
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*snip*
That might answer your questions about the UMP.
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Would love to Fraps a weapons test here if people want to be my test dummy. Like set it to single shot and fire the UMP, the A-91, the M4A1, the AEK and the G36C and see if the UMP really is just that good.

Lune what's your screen name on BL?
I can tell you now, the UMP is NOT good at anything more than medium ranges.

Some people complaining about it being good at range, must consider 100m to be long range or something.

The M16 is far more accurate from longer ranges. In fact, personally I think the pp2000 is better at longer ranges.

I like to get up close and personal though, and this is where the UMP strengths lie.

As the metro map mostly takes place in close quarters, maybe that's why so many people are feeling its wrath.

Not that its OP, just that the map suits its play style.
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