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I only like spotting because it encourages teamwork. How?

A person doesn't need to speak or give stupid nicknames of locations to their squad to point out were the enemy is attacking from. I don't talk during the match, spotting is my way of speaking without saying a word.

People can scream out enemy locations, but people have their own nicknames of locations that are often misunderstood. A triangle over the enemy, means shoot that person. Simple.
While you can still see spotted enemies in hardcore mode (hit M, bring up your "paper" map) I completely agree with what you're saying. The HUUUUGE majority of players NEVER pop up their paper map to check out spotted enemies. Hell, I have my map rebinded to one of my mouse buttons for convenience and don't use it. I find it pretty retarded that hardcore mode defeats the purpose of the team effort of spotting enemies; whether by motion mines, UAV, or by Q-spotting. I also find it pretty retarded that you can't see your ammo count nor armor health. I understand that in real life you don't just "see" these things and some degree of realism is nice to have, but this is still a video game. In real life, you KNOW if you are shot and are bleeding your soul out. You FEEL that. In a game, (for now) you don't, and so showing you a visual representation with numbers is a good substitute for that pain. In my opinion (and yours as well) hardcore mode wipes the teamwork role in Battlefield off the table, making it more ChiODish. (See what I did there? Hahaha... CODish ChiODish childish hahaha)
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Well HC mode with voice commo works great.

Anyone playing the Alpha with an ASUS Xonar DX? I would like to know if it is working better than it did in BFBC2.

Also, anyone running it on SLI/CF? what are the results there?
 
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Oh, so you prefered extra "realistic" stuff, but wanted 3D Spotting?

Very realistic indeed.
ˆˆ

Guess I wanted the Realism and the teamwork advantage, but valued the teamwork more...
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Well HC mode with voice commo works great.

Anyone playing the Alpha with an ASUS Xonar DX? I would like to know if it is working better than it did in BFBC2.

Also, anyone running it on SLI/CF? what are the results there?
eh? voice communication? I rarely see anyone using a mic. Even then it's pointless to use it...most of the time. I wish everyone had a mic. Maybe they do and just don't use it :O
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Try playing Project Reality. Everyone has a mic. Mumble servers full to the rim all the time. The amount of teamwork in that game is mind blowing. Wish I didn't suck at it .

It's a BF2 mod btw.
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where are people getting invites from?

are MOH owners getting an invite anytime soon?
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where are people getting invites from?

are MOH owners getting an invite anytime soon?
It's been stated quite a few times already, people were chosen randomly, wether or not you have MoH LE doesn't matter, it is random.

If you didn't get it, tough luck, I didn't either.
    
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Thread Starter 
How did people get into the BF3 alpha questions are the new "can my pc run BF3."

    
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Hardcore is disgusting.

Teamwork, there is none of it (as if there already was enough).
You aren't playing with the right people then...

Hardcore mode disables regenative healing, that point alone is enough for me to play it.

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I find it pretty retarded that hardcore mode defeats the purpose of the team effort of spotting enemies; whether by motion mines, UAV, or by Q-spotting.)
Motion mines are still effective, they go off when an enemy is close, that way you dont have people sneaking up on you.

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I also find it pretty retarded that you can't see your ammo count nor armor health. I understand that in real life you don't just "see" these things and some degree of realism is nice to have, but this is still a video game. In real life, you KNOW if you are shot and are bleeding your soul out. You FEEL that. In a game, (for now) you don't, and so showing you a visual representation with numbers is a good substitute for that pain.
I agree, i also think there should be a minimap in HC that only shows spotted enemies, and no kill-cam 3d-mapping crap.

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In my opinion (and yours as well) hardcore mode wipes the teamwork role in Battlefield off the table, making it more ChiODish. (See what I did there? Hahaha... CODish ChiODish childish hahaha)
It really doesnt, get on a good Vent/TS/Mumble server and you can communicate effectively with your squad, it helps with discerning where the enemy is, and working as a squad, deaths dont go un-avenged for long...
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While you can still see spotted enemies in hardcore mode (hit M, bring up your "paper" map) I completely agree with what you're saying. The HUUUUGE majority of players NEVER pop up their paper map to check out spotted enemies. Hell, I have my map rebinded to one of my mouse buttons for convenience and don't use it. I find it pretty retarded that hardcore mode defeats the purpose of the team effort of spotting enemies; whether by motion mines, UAV, or by Q-spotting. I also find it pretty retarded that you can't see your ammo count nor armor health. I understand that in real life you don't just "see" these things and some degree of realism is nice to have, but this is still a video game. In real life, you KNOW if you are shot and are bleeding your soul out. You FEEL that. In a game, (for now) you don't, and so showing you a visual representation with numbers is a good substitute for that pain. In my opinion (and yours as well) hardcore mode wipes the teamwork role in Battlefield off the table, making it more ChiODish. (See what I did there? Hahaha... CODish ChiODish childish hahaha)
I love HC mode. I can't stand noob core servers with their spotting and minimap giving away the enemies position. All it takes is one person spotting you and the entire team instantly knows where you are. You can't sneak behind people as easily. In HC mode, you need a good set of headphones or surround sound system and some level of teamwork. After playing long enough you begin to know how much ammo you have left automatically. HC forces teamwork to win or you get destroyed by the other team. Noob core mode lets any noob know where your exact position is...
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