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post #1 of 9
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hi I’m a newbie to all this overclocking, as you can see my current system is like over 3 years old but I’m looking to do a total upgrade and this is where I would like some help.

I've been read a lot of posts and topics on here and it has so enlighted me, I feel like my eyez where once closed but now they are opened to a world where the grass is truly green.

I’m really new at the overclocking scene the must I’ve done woz overclock my graphics card which was fun, it actually made a big difference, anyway I’m looking to build a system with these specs:

MOTHERBOARDAsus P5N32-Sli Deluxe

CPU3.4ghz 650
or
CPU930 3.0ghz

MEMORY crucial 1gb DDR2 PC2-6400 DDR2-800 4-4-4-12
HARD DRIVE 320GB WD
GRAPHICS eVGA 7900gt
SOUND CARD Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Platinum
DVD WRITER1 ASUS DRW-1608P2S
DVD WRITER2 ASUS DRW-1608P2S
POWER SUPPLY550watt energmax
CPU fan Zalman CNPS9500



I’m going to be using if for gaming, video encoding, picture editing (Photoshop), database developments.

I wouldn’t mind any comments and suggestions you have if I need to add or change anything.

I am looking to overclock as well, so wat kinda speeds would I reach on Air with the fan I’m looking to get?

thanx in advance!
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P4 940@4.1 ASUS P5WD2 Premium X300SE :-( Corsair XMS2,(2x 1GB)DDR2 
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WD 250 GB Asus 1608 (x2) Windows media centre Gateway FPD2185W 21"" 
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Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
WD 250 GB Asus 1608 (x2) Windows media centre Gateway FPD2185W 21"" 
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post #2 of 9
I would use the MSI P4n Sli-fi . That MB has the best combination of overclocking options available. My brother just built one with a D840 and a GB 6600gt 256 and 2gb of corsair ddr533. It is perfectly stable. Look at the manual on their website and review the bios options. It is really nice in my opinion.
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Xeon 3050 Abit IP35 Pro Ver 1.1 EVGA 8800GTS 320mb 4x1024 Crucial Ballistix DDR2-800 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Hitachi 2x80 Sata II Raid 0 Asus Lightscribe Sata Vista Ultimate 64bit Samsung 731B 
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Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Hitachi 2x80 Sata II Raid 0 Asus Lightscribe Sata Vista Ultimate 64bit Samsung 731B 
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post #3 of 9
So far, some of it looks good;

Anyhow, by April 25th of ro you should/could end up getting a 940 for the price of a 930 which in terms of OC'ing is much better.

Avoid the nForce 4 SLI IE chipsets, they're not good for overclocking, aside from the usual 225-250fsb range plus memory wise there's a limit in it.

Crucial RAM is ok but overpriced IMO.
For Air-Cooling, the Tuniq Tower 120 is the best there is right now.
Power Supply; Enermax Liberty or OCZ PowerStream 520W.

--So, I'd say the fallowing would be much better:
ASUS P5WD2-E Premium
Pentium D 940 (check for prices after April 25th)
Corsair XMS2 DDR2 675
7900GT
X-Fi
320GB WD HDD
Tuniq Tower 120 (ordered a 2nd one this morning for my 2nd rig.)
Enermax Liberty PSU or OCZ PowerStream 520W.

For overclocking? The 940 would easily reach (275x16) 4.40ghz (with less than 1.50Vc.) on air with the Tuniq and whichever PSU you decide. RAM, set at 3:5 or 3:4 with a 2.1Vdimm.

Also, the P5WD2-E Premium is CrossFire ready Motherboard.
post #4 of 9
What case and stuff do you plan on getting, or are you using your old one?
rebourn
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post #5 of 9
I'd get 2 160GB HDs instead of one large HD and run them in RAID 0.
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post #6 of 9
I would stay away from the intel chipsets altogether. We have done some comparing over the last 6 months and the reason the intel processors get such a bad rap compared to amd is that they were always tested on intel chipsets. The MSI P4n sli-fi is perfectly stable and beats the pants off any intell chipset on the market. So maybe it doesn't overclock as far (i'm not convinced of that) but it starts out a mile ahead.

The options in the bios beat anything available. You can adjust speeds on FSB...Memory....pci....pcie and voltages for cpu and northbridge and memory and fsb. Each can be set individually or synchronized and or locked wherever you want it. You can also use their dynamic overclocking (wouldnt recommend it). You can also overclock the gpu and video memory right in the system bios.

I don't have the actuall numbers available to me but I know that when we took the pentium d 840 and moved it from the 945 chipset to the nforce4 we inproved all our test scores by 20 to 30 percent. That was before any overclocking.

So I'm not trying to get in an arguement. I'm just pretty high on that MSI board and I'm ordering another one soon. I also have a screw intel folder on my desktop because of the grief we went through with the 915g and 945g chipsets. Not the I am prejudiced or anything LOL :>

By the way the other big advantage is that MSI board is only about $120. I can't see paying 100 dollars more just because the board has the asus name on it. That is about all you are paying extra for.

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Hitachi 2x80 Sata II Raid 0 Asus Lightscribe Sata Vista Ultimate 64bit Samsung 731B 
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Xeon 3050 Abit IP35 Pro Ver 1.1 EVGA 8800GTS 320mb 4x1024 Crucial Ballistix DDR2-800 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Hitachi 2x80 Sata II Raid 0 Asus Lightscribe Sata Vista Ultimate 64bit Samsung 731B 
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Recycled Vaio Ultra X2 Connect 550 Old Compaq Tower Recycled Vaio 
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post #7 of 9
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Thanx for all your comments, my first choice was the Enermax Liberty 620Watt PSU, so thanx Nasgul, i'm gonna go wid dat, I’ve been hearing that the Asus P5N32-Sli Deluxe doesn’t overclock very well, its jus that I wanted a motherboard that allowed me to run Nvidia Sli, since I was looking to upgrade and get another card a few months later when I get some money and I’m mainly a Intel man, but I may jus get the ASUS P5WD2.
The ASUS P5WD2-E Premium, doesn’t that jus take ATI graphic cards?

I looked at the Tuniq Tower 120, it does look good, I was gonna get this one instead though Noctua NH-U12, I thought it look good.

I heard bout da prices going down for da Intel chips, but will da UK prices go down at da same time as US price?

Chim3ra, I heard bout 2 hard drives in raid 0 running much faster then one big but I’m looking for SATA II 16mb cache, now I can’t find 160 or 150 in what I’m looking for.

The case I’m getting is Kandalf
or
Soprano

I've not heard much about the MSI P4n sli-fi much, I will look into it though, I’m not jus going for Asus coz of the name, I been through 4 generations of their motherboards and I’ve had nothing but success with them, plus I read reviews and they all seem to be well rated. But I shall look into the alternatives.

Oh Yea which one is better to use:
DDR2 PC6400 (800) 4-4-4-12
Or
DDR2 PC5400 (667) 4-4-4-12?

THanx
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P4 940@4.1 ASUS P5WD2 Premium X300SE :-( Corsair XMS2,(2x 1GB)DDR2 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
WD 250 GB Asus 1608 (x2) Windows media centre Gateway FPD2185W 21"" 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech wireless Enermax Liberty 500 mod. Thermaltake Kandalf(Blck) Logitech wireless 
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P4 940@4.1 ASUS P5WD2 Premium X300SE :-( Corsair XMS2,(2x 1GB)DDR2 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
WD 250 GB Asus 1608 (x2) Windows media centre Gateway FPD2185W 21"" 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech wireless Enermax Liberty 500 mod. Thermaltake Kandalf(Blck) Logitech wireless 
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post #8 of 9
Yes, the nForce 4 in general don't overclock well and it has a RAM limitation. And another thing is that you'll never see an nForce 4 chipset doing 300fsb+.

Not sure if the price changes will take effect in the UK but I will guess so.

I was going to try an nForce 4 but after seeing the reviews on people trying to OC that thing and ended up being a fiasco, I decided for what I knew it was going to work w/o a doubt. As for Overclocking, how many users you see having good results with MIS? Asus is the best choice for an Intel system.

RAM, wouldn't matter but I'd go for the DDR2 800, I have DDR2 1000 but I tend to buy only Corsair XMS2 for my main rig.

So far I've seen only good reviews on the Enermax Liberty, so that's a good choice........but nForce 4 for Intel? Nope, that won't cut it.
post #9 of 9
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i dont tink i'm gonna bother with sli now, i'm jus gonna get a single PCI-Express lane motherboard such as ASUS P5WD2 and some good DDR2 800 memory. i was gonna get a single core cpu but i'm gonna do dual core and jus madly overclock it
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P4 940@4.1 ASUS P5WD2 Premium X300SE :-( Corsair XMS2,(2x 1GB)DDR2 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
WD 250 GB Asus 1608 (x2) Windows media centre Gateway FPD2185W 21"" 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech wireless Enermax Liberty 500 mod. Thermaltake Kandalf(Blck) Logitech wireless 
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P4 940@4.1 ASUS P5WD2 Premium X300SE :-( Corsair XMS2,(2x 1GB)DDR2 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
WD 250 GB Asus 1608 (x2) Windows media centre Gateway FPD2185W 21"" 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech wireless Enermax Liberty 500 mod. Thermaltake Kandalf(Blck) Logitech wireless 
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