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They use the same sensors, tracking is identical.
You do not know ! Even if they use the same sensor Refresh the Deathadder has a much better tracking than the others thanks to its advanced firmware that seem to correct the many problems of tracking it was in its infancy (jitter) on the mouse pad hard color white cloth on the carpet.

You can not say they have the same tracking knowing that you did not compare and that more Abyssus have no option firmware !

I am still waiting a rigorous comparison between these three Razer.
post #472 of 1566
The Abyssus' firmware isn't something you can keep tabs on. You either getting a working one that tracks fine on cloth or you're unlucky and get one that jitters (potentially loaded with an older firmware). What I meant by tracking "Identically" is that my current Abyssus under w/e firmware it's loaded with tracks just as good as my black edition DA under real world testing.


Correction, my Abyssus randomly started jittering at certain vertical angles after it was working fine for a good two weeks. My apologies frenchy.

Your Deathadder question:

The most recent DA3G firmware is 1.39.
The most recent DA3.5G firmware is 2.45.
The most recent DABE firmware is 1.01.

The 3G Deathadder uses it's own firmware and is completely different than the others due to the older S3668 sensor.

The DA3.5G is currently on 2.45.

The DABE is most likely preloaded with 2.44 (1.00), but was renamed possibly due to MCU interactions with the lights. (im unsure) 1.00 and 2.44 got updated to 1.01 and 2.45 on the same exact day according to Razer.
Edited by Skylit - 9/16/11 at 8:04pm
post #473 of 1566
Thanks Skylit tomorrow I would write my more detailed response to your post
post #474 of 1566
Complicated, i have read all the 48 pages of this topic and uncountable reviews trying to find a best mouse for general gaming But I could not get a satisfactory answer.

After all that i am among the DeathAdder and the G9x, and i have some questions

Which pad is the best of best for deathadder? and G9X?

what I read it seems that in cloth pad has positive and negative acceleration and hard pad has only negative, but was not very clear. The problem of acceleration on G9X or avago 9500 sensors can be reduced by using a correct pad? if yes which one?

I usually play at 3000 dpi and with 1 sensivitity on games with the engine source like TF2,L4D2,CS,COD etc... these two mice will serve me well?

And sorry for my english, english is not my first language

Thanks in advance to all who help
post #475 of 1566
xXShakeXx
Deathadder (3g, 3.5g and be) has flawless sensor and will work great on most if not all available mouse pads.
G9x with 9500 has positive acceleration inherent in sensor. With hard pad it works best and you have this pos. accel.
On cloth this sensor still has this positive accel but also gets negative accel (probably skipping) that is higher than this pos. accel. resulting in negative accel.

Is it possible to find a mouse pad that will produce same amount of negative accel as pos. accel so that the result would be no accel?
No, because both accelerations are not constant and they vary a lot so on cloth it always gonna be inconsistent.
post #476 of 1566
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Originally Posted by xXShakeXx View Post
Complicated, i have read all the 48 pages of this topic and uncountable reviews trying to find a best mouse for general gaming But I could not get a satisfactory answer.

After all that i am among the DeathAdder and the G9x, and i have some questions

Which pad is the best of best for deathadder? and G9X?

what I read it seems that in cloth pad has positive and negative acceleration and hard pad has only negative, but was not very clear. The problem of acceleration on G9X or avago 9500 sensors can be reduced by using a correct pad? if yes which one?

I usually play at 3000 dpi and with 1 sensivitity on games with the engine source like TF2,L4D2,CS,COD etc... these two mice will serve me well?

And sorry for my english, english is not my first language

Thanks in advance to all who help
I have the G9x on a Steelseries 5C, before on a 5L.
These are semi hard pads, the base is hard but the top has a half soft feel to it, not like cloth though. Think the G9x tracks fine on this.

The biggest problem with the G9x is LoD, wich is easely above 10mm !!
I have to use a little bit of tape slightly over the sensor to get a normal low LoD, without it i cant work normal with this mouse.
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Im looking for a good mouse like 2months after my old one broken. After reading tons of reviews I found your list and read like 20 pages with the hope to find something about my two models I choose before. So I must to decide between DA(idk wuts better V3(black) or V2(with light) and Xai (does it have angle snapping?). DA is pretty big(my friend got it) and has buggy wheel(I can live with high LOD of it) so I hope Xai is a little smaller and has better performance. What do you think? I will buy a new screen 22-24inch and like to play mostly at +1000dpi and like 1000Hz. If you need more informations ask me and I will be really happy if you can help me to decide.


Edit: I selected DA because of its sensor and Xai i dont know why I just asked me why not maby it is better
Guys I forgot at all that I need also macros. So I see Xai has them and the Cm Storm Spawn also I think DA doesnt. I looked on Razer mices the Imepator 4g seems to be perfect for me. Some guy on youtube said me you can fix its issues(delay and z-axis issue) by using the right pad(he got razer destructor) and updating the firmware. Can anybody confirm, because it would be perfect.
Edited by age95 - 8/26/11 at 8:07am
post #478 of 1566
Thanks for replies, can someone say for me why some people not like the razer mamba and imperator? which problem their sensor have? or is only because of the price?
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why did we change the sheets format... i cant look up crucial information like prediction and acceleration WHY WHY WHY?!?!
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