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post #701 of 889
Where is old sheet?
post #702 of 889
There were multiple sheets.

I deleted the original with IPS speeds. Why? Because as with Sujoys or commonly referred to as "ESR mousescore", it promotes false info as surface subjectivity plays a huge role. They were also tested on one type of surface at max resolution. Again, performance will differ on other registries or interpolated settings. Ex. His Mx518 only logged 80 IPS max tracking speed and while that may be true at the interpolated 800 and native 1600 DPI, the mouse was more than capable of more than 160+ IPS @ 400 DPI on the same exact Black QcK. The 2nd gen Mx518 was a bit different as the native steps changed quite a bit. Best performance was now at 800 DPI and the interpolated 400 setting. 1800 DPI performed similarly to the 1600 DPI step of the original.

I believe the only mouse he thoroughly tested with the original Deathadder which has gone through multiple changes such as OEMs and firmware.. Yet, people still refer to it regardless.

I do wish there was a way to objectively measure things like cursor fidelity other than drawing some lines in paint, though I suppose were stuck with what we have. :[


2nd one had the same basic info as listed on the first page, minus PTE which DeMS was suppose to cover. (My info on Philips is rather limited)
Edited by Skylit - 10/21/12 at 1:11pm
post #703 of 889
I don't think you would find the same degree of variation with PTE sensors as you would with CMOS sensors, just interference patterns instead of recognising features. Wouldn't it just boil down to an explanation of the Z axis stuff? Would be such a great sensor if it could be felt with.
    
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I just search information about wheel of some mice (optical or mechanical). I think I find it here but I didnt.

And I totally agree with you. I know about things that you talking about.

For complex testing you need something like a milling machine or CNC machine. smile.gif If you program it to some measuring trajectory, it is possible to get a very objective and accurate results on jitter, prediction and other things.

Some people said that the Logitech G1 has a high level of prediction. I buy it and compare with mx518 and I didnt find any difference. smile.gif So even total subjectivity is presented in this area. smile.gif
post #705 of 889
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For complex testing you need something like a milling machine or CNC machine.(...)

Maybe someone could make something based on open source 3d printer. I imagine it would be much cheaper ;P
post #706 of 889
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Maybe someone could make something based on open source 3d printer. I imagine it would be much cheaper ;P

3D Printers move much to slow for mouse testing, also they are so light that fast movements could not be done without serious vibration. Trust me, friends of mine built two of these.
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i've tried to ask this at least two times before, but since i've gotten no answer let me try again.

does the logitech m90 (cheapo:) have prediction?

i'm getting either m90 or g100 (depending on weather m90 has prediction), but would like to avoid getting them both...
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post #708 of 889
Anyone know the details behind Logitech's darkfield malarky?

In other non news, I can't help but be looking into transplanting G400 guts into a G500 shell. Eh, should probably just keep messing about with my full custom DA shell.
    
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I'd love to see some good tests of Darkfield, BlueTrack, & Razor's DualSensor tech to see if any of them are good.

 

Like wise, to see if any is better than what we have already.

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post #710 of 889
Razer dual sensor tech doesn't really utilize 2 sensors in a general sense but rather one for tracking and one for advanced calibration / dedicated lift off detection. Performance is more or less in line with the main sensor used.


Darkfield isn't anything special in terms of speed and tracking quality. It's a basic non gaming oriented Avago spec'd model with a potential custom illumination and lens setup. (If any different from standard spec'd hardware).


I've messed with the latest Bluetrack in the comfort 6000 and 3000 mice. Datapath is larger than 8 bit. Tracking a little over 72 IPS specification on most of my surfaces.

Angle snapping was disabled. Polling can be forced over 125hz, but not with traditional methods such as hidusbf.
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