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post #91 of 1560
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Originally Posted by Conditioned;12133310 
the Kova[+] is using a little prediction. the Kone[+] doesn't use it at all.


from roccat support.


I knew the Kova + had prediction due to the sensor of choice, but was unsure as to whether roccat included firmware to enable it on the kone+ like other mice with the Avago ADNS-9500.

Unless someone can find/upload a screen, I'll remove the the "can enable" part.

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Originally Posted by outerspace;12018965 
You can, but you don't. Why? smile.gif

And why you don't write level of prediction in sheet?

I can, but I'll have to switch from a number based system to a personal estimate of "heavy, low and moderate" or something along the lines.

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Originally Posted by outerspace;12065832 
Do you want to test your Ikari Optical?

Sorry, I've been busy with school/uni and just glace the thread's when I have spare time. I'll try when I can free up some time biggrin.gif

Your logger looks pretty neat though, I'm impressed.
Edited by Skylit - 1/25/11 at 6:31pm
post #92 of 1560
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Mouse with polling rate 500 Hz send movement data to OS each 2 ms (1/500 Hz = 0.002 s = 2 ms). What kind of data? It's counts.
as far as i understood this program check for malfunction speed and accel on given surfuce. can it check for interpolated data? like if i set my windows sens to 7. the program will sense that the mouse move 400dpi however the cursor moves extra, thus interpolated. do you have a link to this program?
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post #93 of 1560
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as far as i understood this program check for malfunction speed and accel on given surfuce.
Any mouse test check for malfunction speed and negaccel only on given surfuce. On different surfaces results may be different.

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Originally Posted by v193r View Post
can it check for interpolated data? like if i set my windows sens to 7. the program will sense that the mouse move 400dpi however the cursor moves extra, thus interpolated. do you have a link to this program?
Logger collect raw data recived directly from mouse. So windows sensitivity doesnt matter. Link to logger, converter and little instructions.
Edited by outerspace - 1/26/11 at 9:37am
post #94 of 1560
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Any mouse test check for malfunction speed and negaccel only on given surfuce. On different surfaces results may be different.



Logger collect raw data recived directly from mouse. So windows sensitivity doesnt matter. Link to logger, converter and little instructions.
MouseLog doesnt work with Win7.
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Work on Win7 x86.

Try to find and install Microsoft Visual C++ Redistributable Package x64
Edited by outerspace - 1/27/11 at 6:32am
post #96 of 1560
@SkyLit
In your opinion. What are the best low-medium sens sensors? Also corresponding pad to it. Im guessing the mx518 is out cuz of prediction. da seems like a front runner.
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post #97 of 1560
Also is it true that any dpi other than in intevals of 90 will give you accel.
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post #98 of 1560
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Originally Posted by v193r View Post
@SkyLit
In your opinion. What are the best low-medium sens sensors? Also corresponding pad to it. Im guessing the mx518 is out cuz of prediction. da seems like a front runner.
Low sensitivity 20~inches/360.

Prediction:
Mx518
Mx500
Mx300
Ikari Optical - High LoD/Malfunctions early on hard surfaces.
Deathadder 3G w/ Drift control - High LoD
EC 1/2
X-760H
X-710BF
X-718BK/X-748K
X-755K
Salmosa/Salmosa Korean Edition
Naos 3200
Kova/[+]


No Prediction:


Deathadder 3G without drift control - LoD issues
Deathadder 3.5G/Black Edition - High LoD
CM spawn - Most likely same sensor performance as DA with low LoD/better scroll wheel, only problem is shape might be awkward.
Any mouse with the Avago 9500- Positive acceleration on hard surfaces and random pos/neg accel on cloth.

Medium Sens: 10~ Inches/360

No Prediction:


Intellimouse 3.0
Intellimouse 1.1
Wheel Mouse Optical 1.1a

etc~

Moderate prediction is over hyped and mostly just preference. I'll make an exception for the Kinzu and X8.. the correction is pretty bad and noticeable on these two mice.

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Originally Posted by v193r View Post
Also is it true that any dpi other than in intevals of 90 will give you accel.
Uhh.. are you talking about the interpolation with the Xai? Because it depends. I believe Logitech's Avago 9500 SROM is designed in intervals of 100, although, I would set DPI to 900-1800 just to be on the safe side.

The Mx518's is either 80 or 100~

3080= 400-800-1600. 80 or 100.
3080E= 400-800-1800. 100 or 80 interpolated (1800 DPI).

The EC1/2's SROM should be designed with intervals of 100.

I.E. 500-1000-2000, Instead of Avago's standard 400-800. Bullveyr knows more about this than me D:
Edited by Skylit - 1/28/11 at 1:49am
post #99 of 1560
For the DA and its LOD issue is that for all pads? Also, I really didn't notice a problem with LOD when I had my DA 3G on Qck Heavy. Is the LOD really that much?

Also have you heard anything about the Heaton Pad or Zowie Spawn Pad performance wise?
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post #100 of 1560
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For the DA and its LOD issue is that for all pads? Also, I really didn't notice a problem with LOD when I had my DA 3G on Qck Heavy. Is the LOD really that much?

Also have you heard anything about the Heaton Pad or Zowie Spawn Pad performance wise?
The original DA had the same 3.5/6mm LOD on the QcK.
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Lift-off distance
Currently the following pads are confirm to have the lift off distances listed below

Wooden table top (yellowish wood): 1.2 mm
fUnc Surface 1030, blue, smooth side: 1.2 mm
Icemat 2nd Edition, black: 1.2 mm
MTW: 1.2 mm
fUnc Surface 1030, blue, rough side: 1.4 mm
Allsop raindrop, black/grey: 2.4 mm
Generic red mousepad: 2.4 mm
Generic green mousepad: 3.6 mm
QcK+, black: 3.6 mm
Steelpad 5l, tested on most of the colours: 3.6 mm
Razer Mantis Control: 4mm
Razer Mantis Speed: 6 mm
http://razerblueprints.net/index.php.../topic,5948.0/

And no, I haven't =x
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