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Help with Black-Ice Radiator Install to Tsunami Case

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I have a slight issue...my DD Black-Ice radiator will not fit to my Tsunami case at the back 120 mm fan position with the connections at the top. There is not enough room between the fan location and the PSU. I think I can get the radiator mounted with the connections at the bottom at the rear location with only minor mods.

My questions are these:

1) Is it okay to mount the radiator with the connections at the bottom?

2) Do I need to bleed the system with the radiator loose and turned around to get all the air out?

3) Does it work okay to have the fan mounted to the case and the radiator mounted to the fan? (I know that electric fans work best when they are pushing air instead of pulling air...would it be better if the fan was pushing...any practical evidence of this?)

4) Any performance benefit if I mounted the radiator to the outside of the case behind the rear 120 mm fan, moded the case, and routed the tubes back inside?

Thanks for any help...this is my first WC rig and I am sort of sweating the details on it.

-Erik
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post #2 of 6
I've read it is hard to bleed the system of air if the inlet and outlet to the rad are on the bottom.
Alot of people hang there rad off the back of the case though. Its pretty common. Possibly a little better temps with it outside like that.
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post #3 of 6
It would be better with it as

Case : << Rad : << Fan

when your bleeding the air out you could remove the rad from the back of the case and juggle it about, then when all the air has been bled out, attach it to the case again.

Also to have the weight of the rad held by the plastic of the fan might not be a great idea. The rad is metal filled with water, and the plastic of the fan isnt made to hold weight, so the rad might break the fan.

And to have the rad mounted on the case with the fan blowing thorugh it would be better anyway.
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Usually, those that don't have their heatercores mounted to their case in some fashion have them either sitting on the ground or on top of their case, you have the choice: either mount it, or let it sit on the ground or on the top of your case. I let mine sit on my case because it gets plenty of fresh air that way, and every once in a while it'll catch a breeze and cool down a bit more
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post #5 of 6
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Thanks Burn and Noxious! You pretty much confirmed what I thought I already knew. I would like to get all of the gear inside the case...that said...to do it I would have to mount the rad to the fan, and the fan to the case as I do not think there is a way to do the reverse unless I commit to the radiator outside the case. I actually have an Evercool 120 mm fan so the body is all aluminum! No problems mounting with that. Perhaps if I do make the radiator to fit inside then I can add another fan on the outside. I have looked at those Swifttech radiator cages and they look pretty trick. I might have to do that route. Anyways...I am one step up in costs because all of the DD gear was brand new and free!

Thanks again!

-Erik
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Sweet. Hope you get it working good
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