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I've got a pc built with my specified parts (all approved by the store technician). Everything runs beautfully whether doing art design, watching movies, editing movies; anything

But when I play games, my entire PC instantly shuts down if there are detailed light effects, for example

WoW - Casting certain spells when the camera angle is zoomed in, or if smoke/steam effects cover your character

Left For Dead 2 - Getting close to fires or creating explosions

Lego Star Wars Saga (This game does it too??~!!) - there are glaring effects in the background

I figured it was a CPU cooling problem, so I got a mean heat sync - nothing changed. I have two theories:

1) NVIDIA GTX 260 (Super Overclock)

- Maybe it's getting too hot, and my pc is shutting down for damage-prevention reasons. This irritates me, because I've used both NVIDIA and nonNVIDIA GPU-performance programs to increase fan speed - but it's stuck! It's sitting at 14% and if I ever try to change fan speed, core/memory/shader clocks, I get this message:

-----"The changes made were invalid and will not be applied"-----

...*** is my graphics card flatout broken?

2) Power supply. If my GPU is using too much power to produce these graphics then it'd shut down? But my power supply is 550W and I'm running just the graphics card, 1 HDD and 1 DVD writer - come on~!

I've taken my pc to shops and they've run Benchmark tests with no errors... they don't have any other ideas - I live in Taiwan so no one here seems to be able to help me O_O

I've updated all my NVIDIA drivers ~>.<~ plsssssssssssssssssssssss for the love of the maker does anyone have any ideas? ~>.<~ I'd happily just get new parts if I knew what parts were causing the problems!
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post #2 of 19
Have you tried doing stress test? It might be your PSU, if it isn't a good quality one, make sure its a good name brand, otherwise it might be your motherboard, I had that problem and had to RMA my motherboard
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"550 WATT Thing"?....well what is it?
    
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post #4 of 19
Your power supply may not actually be 550w.
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PSU is to blame. I bet it can't even output 300w. And it won't support a GTX 260. it's getting overloaded and shutting down so it doesn't pop and/or kill other hardware. consider yourself lucky. most crappy psu's just die and take other hardware with them
post #6 of 19
Does it shut down windows, or instantly power off? Powering off can be a sign of your CPU overheating or your power supply going bad.
Download OCCT: http://www.ocbase.com/perestroika_en/index.php?Download
and run the OCCT stress test. If it doesn't stop and say CPU too hot or you system doesn't power off, it should be ok.

You can also stress your GPU with Furmark: http://www.ozone3d.net/benchmarks/fur/

Let us know which one breaks your computer. J/k ...
post #7 of 19
If OP's fan speed is really stuck at 14% and can't be changed like he said ... don't you think that's probably the first thing to look at before definitively pronouncing that the problem is the PSU?

What I'd do: Install MSI Afterburner (works w/any brand), activate the onscreen display, turn on all the monitoring tools like fanspeed, temps, etc. Also, see if you can manually jack up the fan speed with it.

Observe whether the crashing occurs when you reach a certain temp on the GPU, whether or not fan speed is really only at 14%, whether or not it eventually starts increasing over a certain temperature (it should start kicking up at some point in the 60's I believe)

Obviously if the fan speed is truly stuck at 14%, this is going to cause serious problems when gaming, so the first thing to determine is whether or not this is heat-related.

Once heat issues are ruled out, then we start looking at the PSU and other things.
Edited by brettjv - 11/4/10 at 8:12am
    
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If OP's fan speed is really stuck at 14% and can't be changed like he said ... don't you think that's probably the first thing to look at before definitively pronouncing that the problem is the PSU?

What I'd do: Install MSI Afterburner (works w/any brand), activate the onscreen display, turn on all the monitoring tools like fanspeed, temps, etc. Also, see if you can manually jack up the fan speed with it.

Observe whether the crashing occurs when you reach a certain temp on the GPU, whether or not fan speed is really only at 14%, whether or not it eventually starts increasing over a certain temperature (it should start kicking up at some point in the 60's I believe)

Obviously if the fan speed is truly stuck at 14%, this is going to cause serious problems when gaming, so the first thing to determine is whether or not this is heat-related.

Once heat issues are ruled out, then we start looking at the PSU and other things.

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Edited by ironman86 - 3/21/12 at 11:07am
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post #9 of 19
brett - i feel like i've failed b/c of my failure to read everything, thank you for being a model citizen and reading before writing as quickly as possible so as to be first to answer lol

OP ^ what he said first
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awesome responses thanx everyone!

brettjv - thanx a lot for the msi program. Ran it and it let me run my fan speed on 100, so I did a stress test in WoW. Temp stayed at 48~50 the whole time which should be safe as for my card - ran some intense graphics and my PC just went off again

I forgot to mention that after it shuts down, I have to unplug it and press the power button multiple times b4 plugging it in again and turning it on... I'm guessing my card is fine and my power supply sucks?
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Phenom II X4 955 ~3.2GHz Gigabyte M4A77TD Geforce GTX 260 (Super Overclock) 4096MB DDR3 
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