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post #1261 of 1922
So, if i let to no overclock, when the OS uses 1 or 2 cores the multi changes from 20 to 24, and the voltage increases to 1.2xx and on idle it goes to 0.9xx
Isn't that high voltage when the cpu is in load (no overclock) should i put a manual value or i let it on auto, here i am talking of no overclock.
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post #1262 of 1922
I believe what you are getting at is wanting to undervolt the chip with stock settings. Not something I have any experience with but I have seen people undervolt during the summertime for temp and power draw reasons. What I have seen they didn't leave it with stock setting but went with a mild overclock that they could run below stock voltage.

I can't really comment on rather the 1.2xx at load stock. All of these first gen i5's are different and can vary pretty widely on the voltage needed. Stock auto voltage is usually higher then needed. Pretty common to be able to achieve 3.5-3.6 with stock voltage. That is stock voltage for all 4 cores loaded with something like Prime 95 compared to an overclock with 4 cores under the same load, not figuring in the +4 turbo fluctuations.

The .9xx is speedstep kicking in and lowering voltage when the cores are not under load. Maintaining speedstep while overclocking is achievable. My daily driver is a i7 930 overclocked to 3.8 with speedstep on. You just have to do ALL of your stability testing with it on. Sometimes it can be a little tricky figuring out how to turn it on when overclocking but I won't get into that right now.

A undervolt you treat just like an overclock. Just your goal is to come in with a stable overclock that is under the stock voltage. If you can do this with a clock of 3.2 or more (and you should be able to) there is no reason to worry about the complications of using full turbo. Any less then that and I just wouldn't worry about messing with it at all.
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post #1263 of 1922
Ok, i've made a decision, i will leave the cpu at 166x20
It's enough for me in games, all run smooth even with no oc.

LE: I have in the bios a setting called "xtreme phase full power mode" i need to enable that if i want to put a oc to my cpu, doesn't matter how much the oc i put...
And what is intel Virtualization technology, i need that on for a overclock ?

LE2: And what is C-State ? It does the same thing as the speed step and the C1E ?


LE3: And it's good to let the voltage on auto in the bios ? Because with 166x20 on idle the voltage stais at 0.9v(that means the temp are very good) and when i stress the cpu on prime95 it jumps at 1.2v so i think this is a clever way to let my overclock work no ?

If anyone could answer my questions it would be great !

-edit-

Anyone doesn't know what is C-state for and intel Virtualization tech., is this useful for me in oc-ing ?
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post #1264 of 1922
Yes enable xtreme phase full power mode.

Virtualization is for if you want to setup a virtual machine. Don't need it for OC.

Cstate and C1E are both power savings tech. They further reduce power on top of what speedstep does when the CPU is not in full use. Sometimes they can be tied to the turbo multipliers depending on mobo. For example I have to enable both if I want to force the +4 multiplier.

Auto voltage isn't a great idea unless completely stock. It usually gives far more voltage then needed.
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post #1265 of 1922
Ok so the C1E and EIST and C-State are all the same thing ? All 3 reduces the cpu clock when idle ? I disabled C-State and enabled C1E and EIST, and on idle the cpu drops from 166x21 to 166x9
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post #1266 of 1922
They don't do the exact same thing, but all work towards lowering the power usage when it doesn't need it. An average overclock will have them all disabled. JMO that if you haven't overclocked the system before it is best to disable them to keep it simple. Well simpler anyway.
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http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1815703

Sorry its in my RL name and not my Internetz name lmao, but heres my i5 at 4.4 its back to stock now, I cba'd with it
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Nice ! Did you run into any baseclock holes on the way to 210 ? Everything is peachy until 205 for me. Hole feels like the Grand Canyon and there's no way out except pouring on the voltage, mostly VTT. Then it's good sailing again until around 216 where I hit a solid wall that I've spent way too many days banging my head against.
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Nice ! Did you run into any baseclock holes on the way to 210 ? Everything is peachy until 205 for me. Hole feels like the Grand Canyon and there's no way out except pouring on the voltage, mostly VTT. Then it's good sailing again until around 216 where I hit a solid wall that I've spent way too many days banging my head against.
I haven't changed my overclock for ages, but when I was overclocking it to the extremes I hit a wall at 223. I had the temps under control so I just pumped volts in to make sure it wasn't processor instability. I tried increasing the VTT voltage a bit, but at the time I wasn't too comfortable putting it up any higher without a bit of better extra cooling.

Here's the max validation I ended up getting.


I just can't seem to get over the wall, what have people done to overcome the wall. With P55 chipsets they would have a FSB hole at some point, but you could actually get past them, is this similar in the H55 chipsets?
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i still cant seem to OC past 4ghz i have even gone to 1.45v and can't get to 200x20 or 193x21 and keep it stable
   
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