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22 on the other hand just has a bad track record for being stable period. Same with 20 but you won't know unless you try it. Some people actually do have good luck with 20 and 22. They would just be in the minority it seems as Intel CPU's are "known" to favor odd numbers (don't ask why I have no clue LOL), they are all individuals though.
Funny enough, I'm about to declare my system stable on my new overclock, and I'm using a 22x multi!

I was running at 4116MHz (196x21), but I tried 4114 (187x22) and found it to be more stable at slightly lower voltages for some reason. I'm now running one notch lower on the vcore (~0.006v less) and one notch lower on VTT (.025v less).

Also, I'm running my RAM faster at this lower bclock. It's now at 1870MHz, and it's all been stable through 3 days of stress testing, and 2 weeks of general usage! I'll give it another week before I declare it stable.
    
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I don't know much about the game, but judging by your graphics card i would think its referring to system RAM.. How much do you have? I would recommend at least 4 GB. But if you overclock either you Ram or graphics card ram that could be the culprit meaning its just unstable while running that game.

Try getting more ram if less that 4gb and if its overclocked try backing off on the timings a hair..

Edit: if you installed the game on xp it should be fine although do really like windows 7
yah i have 4gb, my bad for not putting that info.

i heard something about windows xp 32 bit not using 4 gb or something? could is possibly be something about turning off paged file indexing since i'm using ssd

i have the ripjaws 1600 at 1520. is that considered overclocked since it was originally lower?
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post #323 of 1922
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yah i have 4gb, my bad for not putting that info.

i heard something about windows xp 32 bit not using 4 gb or something? could is possibly be something about turning off paged file indexing since i'm using ssd

i have the ripjaws 1600 at 1520. is that considered overclocked since it was originally lower?
I didn't realize you were running 32bit but yeah it won't use the whole 4 i think it stops at like 2.5 or 3 GB of RAM. and paged file indexing shouldn't have anything to do with it.. Again i don't know much about the game but it shouldn't matter.

As for your ram i'm thinking 1600 refers to the speed but your bios probably under clocked it by default. So i would say that until you get to 1600 its not considered over-clocked.
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Funny enough, I'm about to declare my system stable on my new overclock, and I'm using a 22x multi!

I was running at 4116MHz (196x21), but I tried 4114 (187x22) and found it to be more stable at slightly lower voltages for some reason. I'm now running one notch lower on the vcore (~0.006v less) and one notch lower on VTT (.025v less).

Also, I'm running my RAM faster at this lower bclock. It's now at 1870MHz, and it's all been stable through 3 days of stress testing, and 2 weeks of general usage! I'll give it another week before I declare it stable.
and now i am tempted to try x22 ^_^
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and now i am tempted to try x22 ^_^
It can't hurt, as long as you MAKE SURE that Turbo is not running full throttle. If you can lock it in at 22x, it's all good, but it can be harmful if it jumps to 25x at higher clocks.

I just followed ~sizzle~'s advice to lock mine at 22x:
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On my EVGA anyway you can limit it to 22. To do this you turn speedstep on but leave C1E and C-State tech disabled. This was also much more stable than 25.
I just like the fact that 22x allows me to run my RAM at 1870MHz. If I tried a higher RAM speed with a 21x multiplier, I would have hit 1960MHz, which is far too high for this RAM...

Oh, and the slightly lower voltages are nice too
    
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Is there a reason that when I set mine to 22x that when it reboots it's at 21x? It doesn't hold it at all. I'm using a Gigabyte P55-USB3 board.

And more recently I've been having problems going to a 2:8 from 2:6 on my ram... as soon as I do that, it stops booting. Ram timings are default, voltage is 1.6 and QPI is at 1.33. I've been able to get my OC up to 4ghz, but at about a 1.35 vcore...
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Is there a reason that when I set mine to 22x that when it reboots it's at 21x? It doesn't hold it at all. I'm using a Gigabyte P55-USB3 board.

And more recently I've been having problems going to a 2:8 from 2:6 on my ram... as soon as I do that, it stops booting. Ram timings are default, voltage is 1.6 and QPI is at 1.33. I've been able to get my OC up to 4ghz, but at about a 1.35 vcore...
well, in my experience, turbo boost in gigabyte at higher clocks are not stable. I'm now happy with x21. x22 just gives me a headache. hehe.
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does turbo actually give you more stability?
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I don't have turbo enabled.. so I take it that's why it didn't work then...
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It can't hurt, as long as you MAKE SURE that Turbo is not running full throttle. If you can lock it in at 22x, it's all good, but it can be harmful if it jumps to 25x at higher clocks.

I just followed ~sizzle~'s advice to lock mine at 22x:


I just like the fact that 22x allows me to run my RAM at 1870MHz. If I tried a higher RAM speed with a 21x multiplier, I would have hit 1960MHz, which is far too high for this RAM...

Oh, and the slightly lower voltages are nice too
Glad my ramblings helped someone out.

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Is there a reason that when I set mine to 22x that when it reboots it's at 21x? It doesn't hold it at all. I'm using a Gigabyte P55-USB3 board.
Could be several reasons. Most likely you just have to play around with BIOS to figure out how it implements that +1. When I did this I just set a low overclock and played around with the turbo, speedstep/EIST, C1E and C-state options until I had it somewhat figured out. Most BIOS versions just have a different way of making that +1 usable.

2nd and this is silly but hey someone might forget. Push f10 to save bios changes.

3rd. How are you determining that it hasn't saved. With some BIOS's you might have to have speedstep/eist on to enable it. This will drop the multi at idle and you will only see the full multi under load.

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And more recently I've been having problems going to a 2:8 from 2:6 on my ram... as soon as I do that, it stops booting. Ram timings are default, voltage is 1.6 and QPI is at 1.33. I've been able to get my OC up to 4ghz, but at about a 1.35 vcore...
Well once you are stable at 2:6; changing to 2:8 will mostly be a matter of upping the uncore voltage (VTT/IMC/QPI) and possibly the RAM Voltage. Though when I upped from 2:6 to 2:8 it suprised me by requiring a small vcore bump also.



From the day I spent playing with 22. ( Not sure if I posted these already or not, srry if it's a repost)

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1468691


Just a benchmark run and not Prime Stable but 22 wasn't treating me too bad.
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