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I generally call a majority of bearings "Sleeve 2.0" designs.

Fluid Dynamic, Long-Life, SSO, Hyro-wave, Nanuflux, Hydraulic, Rifle, & SuperFlo all fit into this category.
Enermax's Magnetic bearings are different than Ball or Sleeve design's.

I have yet to open an Enter Bearing (found on Silverstone SCOOL 121's) or Enermax's Twister Bearing.

Enter Bearing is apparently another Fluid Dynamic type of bearing owned by Evercool.

Though Twister Bearing is just another Magnetic Bearing from Enermax according to their own graphic
Interesting, that's what I was finding too. I guess I was a bit dense when I first started in on this testing and assumed if it wasn't spelled out as a "Sleeve" that it was something more dramatically different and likely had ball bearings in there...I was wrong.

The Gelid Wing12 looks just like that Magnetic Bearing. The only thing it seems to do differently is use a ball between the shaft and the frame and a magnet to keep the shaft from sliding around in the sleeve.

For me there are sleeve bearings, sleeve bearings with a fancy name, and ball bearing fans..
    
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Interesting, that's what I was finding too. I guess I was a bit dense when I first started in on this testing and assumed if it wasn't spelled out as a "Sleeve" that it was something more dramatically different and likely had ball bearings in there...I was wrong.

The Gelid Wing12 looks just like that Magnetic Bearing. The only thing it seems to do differently is use a ball between the shaft and the frame and a magnet to keep the shaft from sliding around in the sleeve.

For me there are sleeve bearings, sleeve bearings with a fancy name, and ball bearing fans..
I personally count Magnetic Bearings in their own field as the Enermax ones do not use any fluid around the shaft and it's all driven by magnets.

GeLID fans actually have a fluid in them (and I do believe it's Magnetic, which makes them say it's a Maglev bearing, but it's not really one.)

The Enermax's get their own category for that. They don't use any fluid while the GeLID's do.

But yeah, to me it's:
1 Ball 1 Sleeve
Sleeve
Sleeve 2.0 (as they all have the obvious benefits over sleeve)
1 Ball / 2 Ball
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I see, thanks! I'll have to look into the details more but that's a great break down....
    
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Aero Cool Case Fan

Special thanks to Vapor for sending this fan over for testing..

I was interested in trying this fan because of the high blade count, and I've never tried an AeroCool fan..so that's cool.

NOISE LEVEL
Was pretty close, but about 1dBA higher than the yate medium. On average compared to the previous in this round, a bit higher level than average, but close to average.

NOISE QUALITY
During the test I encountered what sounded like something slightly rubbing inside the fan motor. I inspected the fan after the test and was not able to find anything. If it wasn't for that rubbing sound, I would call the noise quality good, the high number of blades does seem to smooth out the air type noises and the motor seemed relatively quiet and smooth sounding.

EFFICIENCY
Very poor for the air flow produced, not sure why.

RANGE
Very poor range, it didn't want to start up until about 9 volts and only produced a range of 849-1047RPM, a very small 200RPM difference.

OVERALL
Average noise level, possibly good noise quality(possible defect or debris during test), poor efficiency, and poor RPM range.

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NOTE: I forgot to set the video camera in HD, so this batch gets SD video quality. The audio/test is the same, and I rendered in 720P so you can at least have the fan pictures in HD.







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That Aerocool is probably doing so poorly on the RAD cause it's only rated at 0.889mmH20
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good to know how the aercool performed, lousy!

Damn, I find it hard to choose a fan config that has great looks and good performances. I think most of my time in finding components for a new system has gone to choosing a fan.

Still haven't gotten to a conclusion yet. Bummers
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Zalman ZM-SF3

Another fan sponsored by Vapor..

After seeing how the ZM-F3 was a good solid all around performer, I was curious to see this next generation. This one is sporting some rather unique shark like fins, not only on the tips, but scatter throughout.

NOISE LEVEL
Slightly higher than average, I was hoping for better, but it's in the main pack of fans.

NOISE QUALITY
Very good, I think it actually sounds quieter because of this, very smooth sound. No resonance points detected, and no motor noises apparent.

FRAME
The frame has a special rubber insert to help eliminate vibrations, this is a nice feature

LOOKS
I really like the looks of this fan, it is very unique

EFFICIENCY
Not as efficient as the yate medium, probably extra drag by the shark fins??

RANGE
A pretty good range from 870-1677RPM, which is very good considering it has no apparent noise quality flaws...good the whole range.

OVERALL
Slightly higher than average noise level/cfm, very good noise quality, good range, and nice features/looks. I'm a bit torn on this one, I really like everything but the noise level being just average or worse than average.

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Scythe S-Flex F

Another fan sponsored by Vapor...thanks!!

NOISE LEVEL
About average, a little worse than the yate medium down low and a little better up top.

NOISE QUALITY
Good except for 7V had a little bit of resonance. No obvious motor ticks, etc...a fairly clean sound with a bit of blade chop at higher speeds. Generally good though.

EFFICIENCY
Very good efficiency, substantially better than the yate medium only using 1 watt at 12V...that's very very good.

RANGE
Very good range from 400-1600RPM with overall good performance with the exception of the minor resonance at 7V.

OVERALL
A good all around fan, about average noise level with pretty good sound quality and a good RPM range.

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Mr martin! Did you ever tested a Triebwerk fan? I can buy them for 20 Euro's a piece and i thought it (1 of them) whould be a good alternative for a push and pull with 2 25 mm fans.

No room enough for a push and pull config with two triebwerks. that config whould be 137 mm thick !!
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Mr martin! Did you ever tested a Triebwerk fan? I can buy them for 20 Euro's a piece and i thought it (1 of them) whould be a good alternative for a push and pull with 2 25 mm fans.

No room enough for a push and pull config with two triebwerks. that config whould be 137 mm thick !!
Not yet, but I might be getting one sponsored for testing, there is some interest. Right now all I have on hand are highlighted in green on the first page list. There are a few more potential fans that are not yet listed as well.
    
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