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More toys came to the door, thanks to Seeing Red and RatDog...

I'll be setup for good 140mm rad based testing now, HWlabs SR1 140 is ready for service...

Also have some additional 120mm contestants. Xbit had the NB S3 on top for their open air test, and the San Ace 9S1212H4011 seems like another high end high speed fan that needs a closer look.


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Martin,

you have any info if this fan whould give good enough performances in push and pull configuration with an H50 with shrouds:

Xigmatek 120MM XLF-F1254 LED

I like the way it looks so much and they claim to have relativitally high CFM and static airpressure for a led fan (i know, they dont match up with a GT AP15 )

Let me know man!
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Martin,

you have any info if this fan whould give good enough performances in push and pull configuration with an H50 with shrouds:

Xigmatek 120MM XLF-F1254 LED

I like the way it looks so much and they claim to have relativitally high CFM and static airpressure for a led fan (i know, they dont match up with a GT AP15 )

Let me know man!
The H50 wouldn't need shrouds for that fan.

It actually has rather good static pressure. The only thing a GT will have on it is the acoustic profile (how it sounds) and the better bearing (because Rifle is just a fancy name for a "Better" sleeve bearing, and the GT"s are dual ball bearing)
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Wow...no less than 5 packages today, special thanks to everyone for the fans and candy!











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Got to love the candy... ROFL. Maybe next time I'll just send you a bag of candy instead of $$$
 
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Corsair H50 Fan

Special thanks to Vapor for another fan to test..

The Corsair H50 and H70 are fairly popular, so it's nice to have this fan run so folks that are looking to change out the fan for this kit have an idea how it compares.

PWM
The fan is a 4 pin PWM fan which is a nice feature.

NOISE LEVEL
Relative to the yate loon SM, it was similar at lower RPMs, but a bit higher at the higher speed. Relative to the current fans tested I would call it about avereage for lower RPMs and louder than average for high RPM.

NOISE QUALITY
I'm not sure if it's just this sample, but the fan "Squeeked". It's not something you hear in the context of a normal room ambient noise level as I didn't notice this when playing with my PWM controller near my computer, but under ultra silent room testing conditions with an extremely sensetive microphone, it has a bit of a squeek to the motor. This seems to smooth out a little at higher speeds. The fan blade chop seems about average. In general, not quite good noise quality, I'd say less than average to average.

RANGE
500RPM to 1800RPM, not bad and seems usable in all areas, may be better with PWM control. I'll plan to do some PWM controlled testing later. The range is good.

EFFICIENCY
Very good, only used about 1 watt and better than the yate loon per CFM at higher RPMs by a fair amount.

OVERALL
Louder than average noise level, less than average to average noise quality, good range, and PWM features.

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Nidec Servo Gentle Typhoon AP-15 New Batch Sample A

Special thanks to Vapor for sponsoring this fan..

This is one of the newer batch fans with a slightly different rear frame with openings near the PCB for what appears to be improved air cooling to the electrical parts.

PACKAGE
About average to less than average. No wire sleeving, comes in a clear plastic box with a molex adapter and some case screws, fairly minimalist style.

NOISE LEVEL
Nothing short of exemplary, this is the one area where this fan rules so far. It's particularly unique in that the typical fan air noise you normally hear is nearly gone completely. I suspect this is due to the very forward sweeping fan blades and high number of blades. Also the leading edge of the fan blades is more rounded and perhaps more shaped like a wing profile rather than a knife edge. Whatever it is...it works and works amazingly well in this test condition mounted on a radiator. Compared to the yate loon SM12 at 12V (32CFM), the GT is able to produce the same CFM level at nearly 9dbA lower levels. At the lower end near 16CFM, the difference reduces to about a 1-2dbA difference which is within the (3dBA barely perceptible range). This fan is really strong in noise level particularly at it's maximum RPM range

NOISE QUALITY
Variable, some good some not so good. There are certain volts and RPM where the noise quality is very good, there is very little motor noise and the ultra low level is overall a very good match. However, there are other voltage levels that resonate very slightly and create a bit of a whine. This particular sample resonated very slightly at 7V and a bit more at 8V, then pretty much gone from 9-12V. I'll see how Sample B does in this area.

RANGE
575-1800RPM is very good although you'll need to listen and pick your voltage somewhat carefully for optimal sound quality.

EFFICIENCY
This fan is exceptionally efficient, only 1 watt at maximum RPM is really amazing.

COST
Average to high. I've seen it sell anywhere from $14 to $20 a fan, so it's not a budget fan and it's not coming with a pile of features...not even sleeved wiring.

OVERALL
This is the fan to beat at the 35 CFM level for minimal noise level, but also it's noise quality is fairly good in some voltage ranges. It is not perfect though, it seems to have a very minor amount of resonance at 7 and 8V. Range is good, efficiency is excellent, and cost is ok to expensive. Overall, I suspect most people would be fairly impressed with this fan's noise level and tone, although the tone and sound is different and may not be for everyone. I suggest listening closely to the videos and make your own judgement. Better yet, buy one of your own and give it a good test before committing to a bunch more.

This fan gets another thumbs up for it's amazing CFM/NOISE ratio at 12V, it really separates itself from the rest in this particular area.

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UPDATE 11-17-10

FYI,
I got Vapor's Sample B GT15 processed. It was really close to the sample A results and now that I've listened to the audio, I can't really tell the difference. If anything the sample B was perhaps a bit grittier on the bottom end, but was more consistent throughout the voltage sweep.

Also notice the bottom end of Sample B compared to the rest of the fans tested so far. The Arctic Cooling F12 is actually much the same, perhaps better at the 4-5V range. It's just hard to conclude anything when they are that close. My sound meter floor appears to be 31dbA, so it gets to be a bit suspect down that low.



COMPARED TO ALL FANS TESTED SO FAR

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The H50 wouldn't need shrouds for that fan.

It actually has rather good static pressure. The only thing a GT will have on it is the acoustic profile (how it sounds) and the better bearing (because Rifle is just a fancy name for a "Better" sleeve bearing, and the GT"s are dual ball bearing)
Thx for your reply mate!

Do you have experience with these fans? I couldn't find the number of the static pressure anywhere. I just had to do it with a bunch of ppl saying the static pressure is 'good'.

I'm thinking about using a shroud as a way too keep the noise down A shroud itself keeps the noise down, and my will be more efficient with a shroud so it will have to make less rpm -> less noise.
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Martin,

you have any info if this fan whould give good enough performances in push and pull configuration with an H50 with shrouds:

Xigmatek 120MM XLF-F1254 LED

I like the way it looks so much and they claim to have relativitally high CFM and static airpressure for a led fan (i know, they dont match up with a GT AP15 )

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I'm not sure, never tried one myself but I would guess they would do fine in push /pull. Most fans seem to have a fairly similar cfm per rpm ratio
    
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Testing looks great so far Martin!

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Thx for your reply mate!

Do you have experience with these fans? I couldn't find the number of the static pressure anywhere. I just had to do it with a bunch of ppl saying the static pressure is 'good'.

I'm thinking about using a shroud as a way too keep the noise down A shroud itself keeps the noise down, and my will be more efficient with a shroud so it will have to make less rpm -> less noise.
I haven't tested them yet, though if I was just to do a "estimated guess" I would say anywhere from 2.1mmH20 of static pressure and upwards.

Though they could be higher (as I don't have any to compare against current fans with.)

They definitely have "Good" static pressure for the most part; definitely a lot better than the XLF-F1251's (stock fan of the S1283, but not of the Dark Knight, Balder, Red Scorpion, ect)

Shroud's don't always reduce noise as they can sometimes increase resonance of a fan (IE: make vibration more apparent)
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